Saints who didn't honor Mary?

[water]

Regarding what has been said about St. Therese, her devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary - and that of her entire family - is vividly seen in the the cure of her childhood illness which she attributes to the intercession of the Blessed Mother; she tells how a family statue of the Virgin smiled at her and from thenceforth the family referred to it as “Our Lady of the Smile.”

Yes, I saw this part on a movie about her. Thanks!

 

[FCEGM]

I think St. John of the Cross sums up devotion to Mary perfectly:

**Del Verbo divino

la Virgen preñada

viene de camino:

¡si le dais posada!**

**The Virgin, weighed

With the Word of God,

Comes down the road

If only you’ll shelter her!**

 

[water]

Saint Francis’ prayer:

A salutation to the Blessed Virgin Mary

Hail, holy Lady,
Most Holy Queen,
Mary, Mother of God,
Ever Virgin.
Chosen by the Most Holy Father in Heaven,
Consecrated by Him,
With His Mot Holy Beloved Son
And the Holy Spirit, the Comforter.
On You descended and in you still remains:
All the fullness of grace
Hail, his Palace!
Hail, His Tabernacle!
Hail, His Dwelling!
Hail, His Vestment!
Hail, His Handmaid!
Hail, His Mother!
And hail, all holy Virtues, who
By the grace and inspiration of the Holy Spirit,
Are poured into the hearts of the faithful
So that, faithless no longer,
They may be made faithful servants of God
Through You.

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

I don’t even want to go to this direction of discussing people other than the Canonized Saints - we have plenty of threads on this. I was only asking if any of us could name a Canonized Saint who didn’t have devotion to Blessed Virgin Mary.

**Even that is still a bit ambiguous. The Apostles are canonised in the sense that they are mentioned as saints in the Eucharistic Canon; other Saints were canonised before canonisations in the West came to be centralised at Rome; & many not canonised by Rome were canonised by the bishop of the diocese involved. **​

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**Some have never been canonised at all - they are saints by popular acclamation: Simon Stock is one of them. **

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**What counts as “honouring Mary” ? Praying to her would, fairly clearly - but what about theological exploration of the Incarnation with no particular stress on her ? The concept is rather indefinite, so some definiteness is called for. Simon Stock fairly certainly did have a devotion to her - but St. Paul ? He never mentions her by name, and refers to her in passing with no emphasis upon her - see Galatians 4.4. His name appears in the Canon of the Mass, so ISTM he qualifies for a mention within the tems of your question. Perhaps the best way to honour her is to obey the Son of God. **

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[water]

I am only interested in the Saints who were officially canonized by the Church. I hope this makes this thread a bit clearer.

Thanks for your response and makes it clearer for the discussion.

 

[tessi]

I’d really like to know where it says this. I doubt that she would consider Rosary was boring.

In her memoirs she says that praying the rosary alone costed her more than wearing an instrument of penance, yet she had a great love for our Lady. We all sometimes find it boring to pray the rosary.

 

[glenaitken]

not only can i not think of a single saint in the history of the church that didn’t have devotion to mary, i can’t even think of a single saint since the 1200’s who did not have devotion to the rosary on some level. apparently, you can’t love christ as much as the saints do without loving his mother too

 

[Eilish_Maura]

not only can i not think of a single saint in the history of the church that didn’t have devotion to mary, i can’t even think of a single saint since the 1200’s who did not have devotion to the rosary on some level. apparently, you can’t love christ as much as the saints do without loving his mother too

Since we have the background on so very few saints that speculation has no solid ground to stand on.

 

[SORROWS]

Since we have the background on so very few saints that speculation has no solid ground to stand on.

Not true. Before someone becomes a canonized saint they go through a very rigorous examination of their lives and certain miracles that the Catholic Church must verify. There are many many steps to go through and the Chruch does not take this lightly.

 

[Eilish_Maura]

Not true. Before someone becomes a canonized saint they go through a very rigorous examination of their lives and certain miracles that the Catholic Church must verify. There are many many steps to go through and the Chruch does not take this lightly.

Now that is true, but we do not have the same kind of detail for all Saints.