Sarah Palin: We Won't Get Over Abortion, Real Women Are Pro-Life

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Indeed. But the question is: can the prolife movement survive having Sarah Palin as an advocate?

I liked her initially precisely because she was so strongly prolife. My goodwill lasted about a week or two. I know this won’t convince anyone, but I honestly tried to like her. She’s just obviously obnoxious and unqualified except to the hardline true believers who are blind to everything except ideological loyalty. Unfortunately, there seem to be a lot of those these days–on both sides of the political spectrum.

Edwin
Obviously you are not on the same side of the political spectrum as the unborn. Most of us who are do indeed consider ourselves to be true believers. Your post is meant to degrade a certain segment of society, but I consider it a priviledge to be pro-life and on the same side as Sarah, the unborn, the elderly, and pro-lifers.

So, Edwin, whose side are you on?

Eddie Mac
 
Sarah Palin is truly pro-life. Like the pro-lifer who witnesses at the abortion clinic, or the pro-lifer who donates to clinics that help women who are pregnant find help and support, Sarah Palin walks the walk. That is what pro-abortion liberals really are afraid of - that she’ll convince people to be pro-life by her example. Compare her with any other Catholic pro-abortion Democrat - Biden, Pelosi. She is authentically pro-life and she speaks out for her beliefs. She is an unwavering, courageous spokeswoman for the unborn. Thank you Sarah Palin.

Ishii
 
If the only two candidates are both pro-abortion then it does not matter. We are allowed to decide the lesser of two evils.

I would be willing to wager that anyone the current administration supports for an elected office has to be unwaveringly pro-murder or else thay would not pass the litmus test. As has been stated already, all you have to do is read the party platforms. So far no one has posted an example of a pro-life woman democrat. None. Nada. Zilch. The destruction of Sarah goes on. Since you can’t or won’t correct the problems in your chosen party affiliation you have to destroy Sarah.

The high abortion rate was not a result of what Reagan did. The cause and effect relationship does not connect. You will have to provide a better example to support your statements.

Eddie Mac
Who is we? Sarah got enough issues within her own party BTW. Like I said before though, she is a great spokesperson, but thats about it.

I am only spinning statistics based on the loose standerds by others. But the proof is in the pudding that voting for a “pro-life” president or politician has no effect on actual abortions, and if anything its more of the politicians economic stance that can make the most change. The real culprit is this “lesser evil” mentality, either they are truely Pro-Life or not, if they are not then vote on other issues.
 
Washington DC – Former vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin has a message for the mainstream media and abortion advocates. In a new note encouraging pro-life advocates at the March for Life, the former Alaska governor says pro-life people won’t “get over” abortion because abortions hurt women.

LifeNews.com/nat5908.html
I recently discontinued financial support for a well-know world-wide organization that I had great respect for, until I found out that it supports abortion on demand, as a “women’s rights” issue.

I don’t understand this “women’s rights” thing. Why is the ability to have an abortion mean that a woman’s rights are protected? How did we ever get into this mess? Approximately half the children murdered via abortion are female - future women.

We are murdering children that would one day be women. 🤷
 
I also have an enormous amount of respect for this woman. She’s a great inspiration to many. But, I’m curious, what Christian denomination is she of? 🤷:confused:
 
Sarah needs to interview MAHHHH JOHNSON…

BOOOO YAH.

RIGHT BOYS???

MILF/GILF WOWOOWOWOWOWOOW

LOOK AT HER BEWBS!!!:eek:
 
Those things ain’t people…they just like little growing tumors in da utirus. No way dem things can be bad to take out… you don’t let cancer grow…

I definately have babies with that mamajama… she is smokin hot, but super stupid, she dumber than a box a hair…but i still stick it in her!!!:eek:
 
We had a very pro-life president for the last 2 terms, it did not do much other then add to the human death toll.
They were on the decline a long time before Bush was in office, infact they peaked with Reagan was in office. Both were “pro-life” so whats the point really?
What’s the point? Let see. As Estesbob pointed out, On George W. Bush’s first day in office he reinstated the Mexico City Policy, originally put in place by Ronald Reagan and struck down by Clinton. The Mexico City Policy blocked tax dollars from going to international family planning groups that offer abortion or abortion counseling. This was struck down again by Obama in his first week as president.

George W. Bushed signed into law the Partial birth abortion ban act in 2003. A bill that was sent to the president twice before and vetoed both times by Bill Clinton.

George W, Bush appointed two very pro-life justices to the Supreme Court which will hopefully help to someday over turn Roe v Wade. And possibly help to keep future pro death legislation from becoming law.

What’s the point? True, there is a limit to what a president or any politcian can do. But getting and keeping pro life politicians in office is the key to getting pro-life legislation passed and stopping pro-death legislation. Wthout pro-life presidents in office like Reagan, Bush and Bush, abortions performed today would be without a doubt, far greater than they are now. We can’t give up the fight in this arena, or others.
 
What’s the point? Let see. As Estesbob pointed out, On George W. Bush’s first day in office he reinstated the Mexico City Policy, originally put in place by Ronald Reagan and struck down by Clinton. The Mexico City Policy blocked tax dollars from going to international family planning groups that offer abortion or abortion counseling. This was struck down again by Obama in his first week as president.

George W. Bushed signed into law the Partial birth abortion ban act in 2003. A bill that was sent to the president twice before and vetoed both times by Bill Clinton.

George W, Bush appointed two very pro-life justices to the Supreme Court which will hopefully help to someday over turn Roe v Wade. And possibly help to keep future pro death legislation from becoming law.

What’s the point? True, there is a limit to what a president or any politcian can do. But getting and keeping pro life politicians in office is the key to getting pro-life legislation passed and stopping pro-death legislation. Wthout pro-life presidents in office like Reagan, Bush and Bush, abortions performed today would be without a doubt, far greater than they are now. We can’t give up the fight in this arena, or others.
Bush was a pro-death president by all accounts, he had little to no actual control on abortions other then grandstanding things like the Partial birth bill, he also embarked on a papal declared unjust war. In fact there are statistics showing that abortions were on the rise in the middle of his terms.

But I have to ask, do you honestly believe that abortion rates are less because of the Republicans in office? What are you useing for this conclusion?
 
But I have to ask, do you honestly believe that abortion rates are less because of the Republicans in office?
The role of the president in controlling abortion is very restricted. Given the Supreme Court rulings the limitations that can be placed on abortions are minor - which is not to say they aren’t important nonetheless. Take the partial birth abortion controversy. Most people are appalled by the procedure and those who supported the procedure lost ground over their dogged support of it. It is perhaps true that it had a negligible effect on the number of abortions but that’s not all that’s involoved. There is the “hearts and minds” battle going on as well and, in that battle, the fight over the legality of partial birth abortion was damaging to the pro-abortion side.

This is the significance of Palin’s participation in the debate. She obviously believes what she says about abortion; there is no political calculation involved in her position. It is in fact her life story that makes her position so dangerous to the feminists who peddle the notion that families and motherhood are inimical to success and that success in life can only be measured by ones success outside of the home.

Ender
 
The role of the president in controlling abortion is very restricted.
I agree. As you probably know, the pro-Democrat argument made by some prolife folks is that Democratic policies will cause there to be fewer abortions, while Republican policies lead to more abortions. I’m not sure this is true, myself. But it’s certainly true that expecting a President to end abortion by fiat is naive. I have no reason to doubt Bush’s sincerity in the pro-unborn-life cause. I doubt his commitment to a “culture of life” across the board. But if I had been voting in 2004, I would have voted for Bush (with immense reluctance), and if I had been voting last year, I would have voted for McCain. In both cases almost entirely because of abortion.
Given the Supreme Court rulings the limitations that can be placed on abortions are minor - which is not to say they aren’t important nonetheless. Take the partial birth abortion controversy. Most people are appalled by the procedure and those who supported the procedure lost ground over their dogged support of it. It is perhaps true that it had a negligible effect on the number of abortions but that’s not all that’s involoved. There is the “hearts and minds” battle going on as well and, in that battle, the fight over the legality of partial birth abortion was damaging to the pro-abortion side.
I agree.
This is the significance of Palin’s participation in the debate. She obviously believes what she says about abortion; there is no political calculation involved in her position
I don’t follow this at all. I don’t doubt Palin’s sincerity, but it seems to me that her prolife stance has been a very profitable political calculation for her. It was certainly the reason I was favorably disposed toward her at first, until I realized that nearly everything else about her (viewing her simply as a public figure and possible President of the country in which I live–this is not a personal judgment) was repellent.

Edwin
 
Obviously you are not on the same side of the political spectrum as the unborn.
The unborn are not on the political spectrum.

I refuse to choose sides on the political spectrum as long as both sides endorse evils of different kinds, and demand my support on the grounds that they don’t support the same evils as the other side.

Edwin
 
The unborn are not on the political spectrum.

I refuse to choose sides on the political spectrum as long as both sides endorse evils of different kinds, and demand my support on the grounds that they don’t support the same evils as the other side.

Edwin
Exactly. The unborn do not have any say so in anything. That is why we must support anyone who gives us the best chance of saving any of the babies.

Refusing to choose sides is sticking your head in the sand.

Eddie Mac
 
Exactly. The unborn do not have any say so in anything. That is why we must support anyone who gives us the best chance of saving any of the babies.

Refusing to choose sides is sticking your head in the sand.

Eddie Mac
But in reality they diont stick their heads in the sand. they use the alleged evil those who support life as an excuse to vote for pro-abortion canidates. For a non-Catholic this is more understandable(but still not acceptable) as they do not have the advantage of the guidance of the Church
 
I don’t doubt Palin’s sincerity, but it seems to me that her prolife stance has been a very profitable political calculation for her.
If you don’t doubt her sincerity then how can you at the same time say that her pro-life stance is a “political calculation?” Dislike her how you will but this charge is without any merit. What evidence is there that this is merely a clever political maneuver? Her decision not to abort her Down Syndrome child? Her teenage daughter’s decision not to abort her illegitimate child? Most politicians talk about this issue as it affects others. Palin faced the choices other women faced; her choices and her position were not theoretical. If you know of another politician who better exemplifies “walking the walk” than Palin, point him out. I’m sure there are many other reasons for disliking her but don’t denigrate her anti-abortion stance; that is undeserved.

Ender
 
Washington DC – Former vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin has a message for the mainstream media and abortion advocates. In a new note encouraging pro-life advocates at the March for Life, the former Alaska governor says pro-life people won’t “get over” abortion because abortions hurt women.

LifeNews.com/nat5908.html
In some Asian cultures both women and baby are killed if pregnancy occurs outside of marriage, for example in the case of honour killing. By picking on the weakest, abortion puts women at risk and could lead to more killing of women aswell as the killing of the disabled.
 
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