Satan tempting Jesus

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Why would Satan tempt Jesus if he knew that Jesus was going to win anyway?
God may have hidden the manner of the coming of his Son from the devil and his angels or they blinded by their pride, may have known that God was sending his Son/Holy One into the world but did not think that God would send him in the manner he did (God foolishness being wiser than any other created wisdom…)
When his (devil’s) angels roamed the world (as they do) seeking the ruin of souls, they came across this Just Man so just they began to suspect he might just be the promised one. The Devil himself did not leave it for his angels to do the testing but he himself came…
He did not succeed but to work he went resulting in the death of Jesus not knowing that that very death would bring out him being subdued by one stronger and him being cast out…
 
Tempt or is it test. God most definately tests us. Remember he tested Job. Asked him to sacrifice his son. Only in the end did he relent when he learned what he wanted to know.
 
I was just reading and thinking about this the other night.

The idea that Jesus Himself endured temptation I understand…

(Hebrews 2:18) Because He himself was tested through what He suffered, He is able to help those who are being tested.

It’s the idea that the Spirit lead Jesus to be tempted that I struggle with…

(Matthew 4:1) Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil.

I also struggle with the words from the Lord’s Prayer…lead us not into temptation…

Why would we ask God to not lead us into temptation if He has no plans to do so? I realize that it is my lack of understanding that causes me to struggle with this. I know that God does not tempt us. I asked a priest once and he replied that it is a poor translation of Jesus’s words. It remains for me, however, a window of uncertainty with which Satan will sometimes tempt me to doubt. And therein might be my answer…to simply trust God.

Does anyone else wrestle with this??
From The Catechism of the Catholic Church (Does this help?)

VI. “And Lead Us Not into Temptation”

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This petition goes to the root of the preceding one, for our sins result from our consenting to temptation; we therefore ask our Father not to “lead” us into temptation. It is difficult to translate the Greek verb used by a single English word: the Greek means both “do not allow us to enter into temptation” and "do not let us yield to temptation."150 “God cannot be tempted by evil and he himself tempts no one”;151 on the contrary, he wants to set us free from evil. We ask him not to allow us to take the way that leads to sin. We are engaged in the battle “between flesh and spirit”; this petition implores the Spirit of discernment and strength.

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The Holy Spirit makes us discern between trials, which are necessary for the growth of the inner man,152 and temptation, which leads to sin and death.153 We must also discern between being tempted and consenting to temptation. Finally, discernment unmasks the lie of temptation, whose object appears to be good, a “delight to the eyes” and desirable,154 when in reality its fruit is death.

God does not want to impose the good, but wants free beings. . . . There is a certain usefulness to temptation. No one but God knows what our soul has received from him, not even we ourselves. But temptation reveals it in order to teach us to know ourselves, and in this way we discover our evil inclinations and are obliged to give thanks for the goods that temptation has revealed to us.155

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“Lead us not into temptation” implies a decision of the heart: "For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. . . . No one can serve two masters."156 "If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit."157 In this assent to the Holy Spirit the Father gives us strength. "No testing has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your strength, but with the temptation will also provide the way of escape, so that you may be able to endure it."158

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Such a battle and such a victory become possible only through prayer. It is by his prayer that Jesus vanquishes the tempter, both at the outset of his public mission and in the ultimate struggle of his agony.159 In this petition to our heavenly Father, Christ unites us to his battle and his agony. He urges us to vigilance of the heart in communion with his own. Vigilance is “custody of the heart,” and Jesus prayed for us to the Father: "Keep them in your name."160 The Holy Spirit constantly seeks to awaken us to keep watch.161 Finally, this petition takes on all its dramatic meaning in relation to the last temptation of our earthly battle; it asks for final perseverance. "Lo, I am coming like a thief! Blessed is he who is awake."162
 
Satan absolutely did not know what God’s plan was. He may have been proud enough to think he could someone win his battle against God, but he didn’t know what Jesus was going to do. He was ignorant to God’s plan of salvation. 1 Cor 2:7 says : Rather, we speak God’s wisdom, mysterious, hidden, which God predetermined before the ages for our glory, and which none of the rulers of this age knew; for if they had known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. Satan was the ruler or prince of the world.

Quite clever on God’s part, I must say. He used Satan’s hate and pride against him. Satan did not have any idea that God would accept the Sacrifice of the Lamb who laid down His life willingly as atonement for our sins. Satan thought that by provoking the murder of Jesus, that he would somehow thwart the mission of salvation. Instead, he became a key, but unwitting, figure in the accomplishment of our salvation. That must really stick in his craw.
 
Tempt or is it test. God most definately tests us. Remember he tested Job. Asked him to sacrifice his son. Only in the end did he relent when he learned what he wanted to know.
Confusing Abraham with Job.

With Job remember the Devil was very much involved…

Devil was testing by means of temptation (trying to induce one to sin). If Jesus sinned, then definitely not the Holy One of God…

God never tests to induce us to sin but even in his tests we can fail and in doing so sin…
 
Why would Satan tempt Jesus if he knew that Jesus was going to win anyway?
Here is a better question: Why would the HOLY SPIRIT lead Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted if Jesus was going to win anyway?
 
And yet another question -
Why is this episode included in the Bible?
We know that not everything Jesus said and did was written down, so why was this episode included?
What are we to learn from this?

🤷:hmmm::hmmm:

Peace
James
 
Here is a better question: Why would the HOLY SPIRIT lead Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted if Jesus was going to win anyway?
To demonstrate the Power of the Holy Spirit to protect those who place themselves under His protection. (??)

Peace
James
 
Here is a better question: Why would the HOLY SPIRIT lead Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted if Jesus was going to win anyway?
To show that Jesus’ subjecting Himself to temptation from Satan was part of God’s plan.
 
I was just reading and thinking about this the other night.

The idea that Jesus Himself endured temptation I understand…

(Hebrews 2:18) Because He himself was tested through what He suffered, He is able to help those who are being tested.

It’s the idea that the Spirit lead Jesus to be tempted that I struggle with…

(Matthew 4:1) Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil.

I also struggle with the words from the Lord’s Prayer…lead us not into temptation…

Why would we ask God to not lead us into temptation if He has no plans to do so? I realize that it is my lack of understanding that causes me to struggle with this. I know that God does not tempt us. I asked a priest once and he replied that it is a poor translation of Jesus’s words. It remains for me, however, a window of uncertainty with which Satan will sometimes tempt me to doubt. And therein might be my answer…to simply trust God.

Does anyone else wrestle with this??
You should read the book Jesus of Nazareth by Pope Benedict. He has excellent commentary on the Lord’s Prayer line by line. You will get a better understanding of “lead us not into temptation”.
 
Here is a better question: Why would the HOLY SPIRIT lead Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted if Jesus was going to win anyway?
Perhaps:
  1. To show that Jesus is the new “perfect” Adam, who did not succumb to temptation as Adam did.
  2. To show that Jesus is the new “perfect” Moses, fit to lead his church through the wilderness of the last 2000 years. As we know, Moses did not make it to the promised land. Jesus did.
 
Satan absolutely did not know what God’s plan was. He may have been proud enough to think he could someone win his battle against God, but he didn’t know what Jesus was going to do. He was ignorant to God’s plan of salvation. 1 Cor 2:7 says : Rather, we speak God’s wisdom, mysterious, hidden, which God predetermined before the ages for our glory, and which none of the rulers of this age knew; for if they had known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. Satan was the ruler or prince of the world.

Quite clever on God’s part, I must say. He used Satan’s hate and pride against him. Satan did not have any idea that God would accept the Sacrifice of the Lamb who laid down His life willingly as atonement for our sins. Satan thought that by provoking the murder of Jesus, that he would somehow thwart the mission of salvation. Instead, he became a key, but unwitting, figure in the accomplishment of our salvation. That must really stick in his craw.
I was under the impression that angels are outside of time and therefore can see in the future. And because of this ability, they are not redeemable because they knew the consequences of their actions and still chose to disobey God.I was also under the impression that one of the reasons of Satan’s fall was that he refused to bow before God in human form—Jesus. Am i wrong in these assumptions then? ( i asked this in AA and then get a response 😦 )
 
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