Saturday Vigil Mass and Sunday night Mass

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I hope you can help answer my question. I know that if we go to a Saturday vigil Mass, it fulfills our Sunday obligation. I am guessing that this is because for the Church, the new day starts the night before, after vespers? (A total guess).
Anyway, there are 24 hours in a day, and if you can fulfill our Sunday obligation at a Saturday 7:30pm Mass, then how can there also be a Sunday night, 7:30 or even 10pm Mass that fulfills our “Sunday” obligation? Wouldn’t those Masses really be “Monday vigils”?

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The Saturday afternoon and evening masses on ordinary Sundays are anticipated masses, not vigil masses.

They just count for Sunday, but they ain’t on Sunday, and there is no requirement to , for example , abstain from servile work on Saturday evening.

The suggestion is that Catholic attend mass Saturday evening or anytime Sunday, including Sunday evening.
 
Thank youi kielbasi

Can you explain the difference between an “anticipated” and “vigil” Mass?

(The reason for this thread is that a friend of mine who doesn’t think too highly of the Catholic Church asked me this question, and I want to anticipate every possible further question from him).
 
Only Sundays (and holy days) begin liturgically at First Vespers. Sunday, being the Lord’s Day anf first among all other days of the week, enjoys an extended period, from First Vespers on Saturday evening through midnight Sunday. All other days liturgically begin and end at midnight.
 
(The reason for this thread is that a friend of mine who doesn’t think too highly of the Catholic Church asked me this question, and I want to anticipate every possible further question from him).
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Please know in advance that if someone is already predisposed against the Church, he is unlikely to chance that stance, regardless of anything you say. Sad, but true.
 
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Only Sundays (and holy days) begin liturgically at First Vespers. Sunday, being the Lord’s Day anf first among all other days of the week, enjoys an extended period, from First Vespers on Saturday evening through midnight Sunday. All other days liturgically begin and end at midnight.
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While the liturgical celebrations of Sundays and Solemnities begin with first vespers, do you have any cite for the **day **so beginning? I’ve never found anything in, eg, the catechism nor canon law to say so. (Rather, they make reference to the “evening of the previous day.”)

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While the liturgical celebrations of Sundays and Solemnities begin with first vespers, do you have any cite for the **day **so beginning? I’ve never found anything in, eg, the catechism nor canon law to say so. (Rather, they make reference to the “evening of the previous day.”)

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Sorry, I do not understand what you are asking.
 
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Sorry, I do not understand what you are asking.
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For instance, Canon 202 says, in part
In law, a day is understood to be a space of twenty-four hours, to be reckoned continuously and, unless expressly provided otherwise, it begins at midnight…
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Canon 1248 says, in part
The obligation of assisting at Mass is satisfied wherever Mass is celebrated in a catholic rite either on a holyday itself or on the evening of the previous day.
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But does **not **say (for instance) that the holyday begins at a time other than midnight, nor extends longer than twenty-four hours.

Is there any document that does so provide for holydays?

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For instance, Canon 202 says, in part

Canon 1248 says, in part

But does **not **say (for instance) that the holyday begins at a time other than midnight, nor extends longer than twenty-four hours.

Is there any document that does so provide for holydays?

tee
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It does say however that, unless otherwise expressed, a day is reckoned as 24 hours and begins at midnight. However, in the commentary in the Code of Canon Law (I suggest you purchase a copy of the Code that has a commentary if you haven’t yet) it clearly points out that Solemnities, which include Sundays, begin after First Vespers of the Solemnity, which are held on the evening of the previous day. The commentary explains that “after First Vespers” should be understood as after 4PM.

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