Saudi journalist faces prosecution beacuse of Muhammed.

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Read this recent incident here. That person did not like Muhammed’ actions therefore he did not like his God, so his twitter writing indicates that he turned into atheist!

If we had Christian Churches in Saudi Arabia, I believe that person would have known about GOD’s love through Jesus, but that seems impossible to have thus Muhammed or death is the only choice waiting for him…
 
That’s very sad. People can never quite believe me that KSA is really like that. Sadly though I think it will be a very long time before true religious freedom comes about.
 
The problem that his incident became a story on every tongue here, on every newspaper, and the mosque sheikhs keep mocking and cursing him after prayers, which led to a serious mental impact on his family (parents), and now if anyone was thinking even 1% of changing his/her Islam religion to Christianity that percentage would be almost zero now…
 
Just because it’s the interpretations of one particular Islamic country does not make it a general Islamic rule.
Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of islam and the birthplace of mohamad.

You try telling the Saudis they are not true islam.
 
Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of islam and the birthplace of mohamad.

You try telling the Saudis they are not true islam.
Proving nothing. Saudi Islam is a particularly strict and conservative form of Islam, sometimes too much so. There’s more than one strand of Islam just as there’s more than one form of Catholicism or of Christianity.
 
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This is not true Islaam…
I curious to know how do you know this is not true islam…??

Do you the true islam?
 
Proving nothing. Saudi Islam is a particularly strict and conservative form of Islam, sometimes too much so. There’s more than one strand of Islam just as there’s more than one form of Catholicism or of Christianity.
But there is only ONE reality, and the reality is that Saudi Arabia, despite it merely being a British creation of tribal favoritism, does control Mecca- the absolute place to pilgrimage for every mohammedan. It is the direction of prayer. They are the keepers of the teachings of mohammed in the true nature of what the purpose of mohammedanism is. The Shi’a, while equally cruel, also display a variant of moahmmedan doctrine, specifically in the realm of rightful heirs and eschatological phenomena which are largely self-affected and self-fulfilled. I suspect we shall see an example of steps in that regard today (15 February), or in the coming days; certainly we shall see the move within a year.

Same faction has the loyalty and material support of Hezbollah, Bashar Al-Assad and his regime, HAMAS, and the Muslim Brotherhood. In essence, they have the power in the region. Saudi Arabia merely has itself, Jordan, and a few of the other gulf states. Even Iran’s historical enemy, Iraq, is moving closer to a Persian mindset in regard to the shared Shi’a majority.

While both schools of general thought are largely disparate in appearance, they both engender the same awful reality: shariah law and the enacting of examples from the hadith and historically developed mohammedan jurisprudence in matters such as that.

As a person born into mohammedanism, his rejection IS apostasy and punishable by death in that system. This extends to all countries which are officially mohammedan. Afghanistan, Pakistan, “Palestine”, all of North Africa, etc.

Whatever happy-go-lucky variant you are studying is not anything more than a trap for your Western gullibility, or is some variant like Ahmadiyya.

To reject historical mohammedanism in favor of some other modern variety which is more agreeable is like someone converting to Pentecostalism and claiming they’re Catholic.

The historical reality matters, as do the historical fruits in light of the historical text.

In this regard, mohammedanism fails most spectacularly.
 
Hey Kouyate,** jonbhorton** have answered you well, beside I’m still waiting to hear your answer on sister in Christ “jakasaki” question :rolleyes:

Anyway, I will remind you of those references from Quran & hadith particularly for that journalist case, so that it might benefit you in your study since you are still an Islamic student and yet to learn ;)

(Quran 65-66):
SHAKIR: "And if you should question them, they would certainly say: We were only idly discoursing and sporting. Say: Was it at Allah and His communications and His Messenger that you mocked? Do not make excuses; you have denied indeed after you had believed; if We pardon a party of you, We will chastise (another) party because they are guilty."

Sahih Muslim, Book 016, Number 4152:
“'Abdullah (b. Mas’ud) reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: It is not permissible to take the life of a Muslim who bears testimony (to the fact that there is no god but Allah, and I am the Messenger of Allah, but in one of the three cases: the married adulterer, a life for life, and the deserter of his Din (Islam), abandoning the community.”
 
Proving nothing. Saudi Islam is a particularly strict and conservative form of Islam, sometimes too much so. There’s more than one strand of Islam just as there’s more than one form of Catholicism or of Christianity.
there we go again with excuses “its not true Islam”. You want me to quote passage from Quran that states that apostasy/criticism of Islam/Mohammed is punishable by death? There is only one Quran and they are following it
 
Update to this story:

A Saudi blogger wanted for allegedly insulting the Prophet Mohammed on Twitter was returned to Saudi Arabia today where he faces the possibility of a death sentence.

Hamza Kashgari, 23, was enroute to New Zealand seeking asylum when he was detained in Kuala Lumpur by Malaysian security officials who said they didn’t want their country to become a safe haven for fugitives.
 
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