Scenario(s) at the 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ !

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LilyM:
Justice, very simply ANY religious belief is irrelevant, if not actually indefensible, from the standpoint of human logic.
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Ms. LilyM,

There was a time when I too used to think the same way you think now by saying “ANY religious belief is irrelevant, if not actually indefensible, from the standpoint of human logic.” But it was due to lack of knowledge/lack of enough reasoning/thinking.

If you dig more the brains of other intellectuals and men of knowledge and reason, you will find a different scenario than you are in.

I created a seperate thread for you titled ‘Faith & Reason’,
[forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=101175]](http://forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=101175])
Please go thru this thread and see if this can make you change your present view.

And also these short articles may help you:


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Like all your posts and links, Justice, this material is poor science, poor logically and poor as religious theory. Science and human knowledge gets along more than adequately without necessitating belief in any God. If anything science tends to regress in theocracies, as it did in medieval Europe where Christianity was a political and secular as well as religious power. And I still see no basis at all for claiming that your understanding of God is more inherently logical than mine.

You find it ridiculous and unbelievable that God could exist as a three-in-one Trinity, or take on human form, or that he would relinquish this human form to death as a sacrifice to redeem us from our sins. I find it equally ridiculous and unbelievable that God would magically reveal a supposedly infallible book to an illiterate Arab camel driver - AND that He would put into His infallible word such rot and inherently untrue allegations about Christian beliefs as that Mary is God. The infallible word of God surely would atl least accurately reflect Christian beliefs abour Him and His creatures.

So there we have it - nothing I’ve seen from you so far has budged me an inch. I would also say that you certainly are no closer to understanding even the basics of Christianity than when you started posting on these forums. Maybe I’m blinkered but believe me you have more than a few blinkers of your own.

For the sanity of both of us I’m not going to read or respond to any more of your posts. You’ve been going around in pointless circles on your pet themes for quite some time now instead of truly engaging with the questions other people have posted on here. I’m not going to indulge you by stooping to your level of ridiculousness any more.
 
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LilyM:
You find it ridiculous and unbelievable that God could exist as a three-in-one Trinity, or take on human form, or that he would relinquish this human form to death as a sacrifice to redeem us from our sins.
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You are first assuming the Triune nature of God from your unrelaible text of your scriptures whose most books are written by UNKNOWN authors, then building an objective argument.

A subjective material cannot be a foundation for an objective argument.

If you had 100% accurate unadulterated uncorrupted teachings/message of Jesus and his unambiguous statement about his “Triune” nature then it would have makes some sense to claim Trinity.

Have you checked who were the authors of the four so-called canonical gosples to make sure who you are actually following or on whose ideas your faith is based on?

Have you atleast checked why the **Trinity ** verse 1 John 5:7 is thrown out from latest various versions of the Bibles, including your latest catholic New American Bible?

Now, are you at the false impression that God can do everything that is in your mind?

Is God bound by your imagination?
Should He do what you think he should?
If you think He can do anything, then:

Can God make atleast an another God just equal unto Him?
Can He create atleast an another The Father?
Can He create more The Sons–just like whatever the Idea of Jesus you have?
Can He create more Holy Ghosts and send them one of each to all those thousands of different churches, sects, cults and denominations? [So far it seems to me that each and every one of these thousands of different churches, sects, cults and denominations have got seperate form of Holy Ghost because they all claim to have same Hoy ghost/spirit but contradict with eachother at the same time 😉 ]
Can God throw you out of His dominion?

You see, God cannot do** what you want Him to do**. He does what He wants to do because He is the ONE who is Almighty. Becuase the FREE WILL only belongs to God. We are His creature. We have only limited-free-will/choice…but this one too is from His Permission/Leave/Order.

When He Wills anything it happens exactly. But when we** will ** something it may or may not happen exactly the way we wanted/willed. Because the Wisdom of God is involved and we don’t know what is His Full/Whole Wisdom.

Thus, you cannot concoct an idea such as* Trinity * from your own mind and attribute it first to God/Jesus as if it was taught to you by Jesus in his authentic Message, then you cannot expect God to become a *Triune * God. It does not work this way. God is not bound by your expectations/dogmas/philosophies.
If you have not preserved Jesus message properly, then it is not God’s business to twist your arm and force you to do something. Because this world is a testing ground. You are given a certain amount of freedom/choice and based on that He will judge you. Thus you have to do your own Home-Work. He is not going to send a book to each and everyone of you. It defeats the purpose of His testing His creatures.

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