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olaevery1
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I just want to refer to a previous posts, this by @CSN :
I am a big believer in miracles. In their existence, their veracity, and ultimately, their power to convert…
I note that there’s a tendency to brush them off, saying they are not important to the faith. I entirely disagree. To me, miracles are the single most convincing reason believe in the existence of God in general, and in the truth of the Catholic Church in particular (because I hold that despite the claims of miracles of every religion, only the Catholic Church has medically documented, scientifically documented inexplicable phenomena that have occurred in its name ).
and a reply from @AveSantaMaria
I’m trying to get a copy of the miracle. I actually communicated with the person who did the scientific study. The issue that I am having is that I don’t understand Italian and can’t write it well or read it. Otherwise, I would send him a letter in Italian requesting a copy of the study (which he seemed glad to provide). I am also very busy - otherwise I might pay a professional Italian translater to translate the document for me. I am also highly interested in sending the document to interested friends.
On this forum, I communicated with a person who I think lives in Italy and knows of the company that published it and might be interested in translating the letter/article or obtaining it. I can tell him that there is another person interested in this miracle other than myself if you would like it sooner than I get around to doing this and maybe you might communicate with him.
P.S. In my investigations, I found out that the author of the study knows of no WHO organization involvement in the miracle. I called the WHO and searched their website and no one there or on the website knows of any involvement. So this seems like a spurious claim to me. Many claims have been spurious regarding the Lanciano miracle, including claims written in books. In fact, the person I initially contacted as a colleague of the doctor was quoted in a book as having an involvement with the Lanciano miracle that he actually did not have!!
Having said the foregoing, I have at times looked for the medical journals or other scientific documents that have supposedly discussed experiments conducted on various relics, etc.
For example, I read that the World Health Organization commissioned scientists to study the Eucharistic Miracle at Lanciano. Also, the panel of doctors at Lourdes would (I presume) have published some kind of medical reports.
In the end, I have a question - does anyone have copies of such documents ? Like copies of medical journal articles or the official report to the WHO (etc.) ?
I am asking this because an atheist friend of mine said that he would seriously consider these things with an open mind, provided that I give him such firsthand evidence.
Thanks in advance…
Wondering if anyone have obtained the published paper or any WHO records. TQVM
I am a big believer in miracles. In their existence, their veracity, and ultimately, their power to convert…
I note that there’s a tendency to brush them off, saying they are not important to the faith. I entirely disagree. To me, miracles are the single most convincing reason believe in the existence of God in general, and in the truth of the Catholic Church in particular (because I hold that despite the claims of miracles of every religion, only the Catholic Church has medically documented, scientifically documented inexplicable phenomena that have occurred in its name ).
and a reply from @AveSantaMaria
I’m trying to get a copy of the miracle. I actually communicated with the person who did the scientific study. The issue that I am having is that I don’t understand Italian and can’t write it well or read it. Otherwise, I would send him a letter in Italian requesting a copy of the study (which he seemed glad to provide). I am also very busy - otherwise I might pay a professional Italian translater to translate the document for me. I am also highly interested in sending the document to interested friends.
On this forum, I communicated with a person who I think lives in Italy and knows of the company that published it and might be interested in translating the letter/article or obtaining it. I can tell him that there is another person interested in this miracle other than myself if you would like it sooner than I get around to doing this and maybe you might communicate with him.
P.S. In my investigations, I found out that the author of the study knows of no WHO organization involvement in the miracle. I called the WHO and searched their website and no one there or on the website knows of any involvement. So this seems like a spurious claim to me. Many claims have been spurious regarding the Lanciano miracle, including claims written in books. In fact, the person I initially contacted as a colleague of the doctor was quoted in a book as having an involvement with the Lanciano miracle that he actually did not have!!
Having said the foregoing, I have at times looked for the medical journals or other scientific documents that have supposedly discussed experiments conducted on various relics, etc.
For example, I read that the World Health Organization commissioned scientists to study the Eucharistic Miracle at Lanciano. Also, the panel of doctors at Lourdes would (I presume) have published some kind of medical reports.
In the end, I have a question - does anyone have copies of such documents ? Like copies of medical journal articles or the official report to the WHO (etc.) ?
I am asking this because an atheist friend of mine said that he would seriously consider these things with an open mind, provided that I give him such firsthand evidence.
Thanks in advance…
Wondering if anyone have obtained the published paper or any WHO records. TQVM
