Scientific evidence that sin can be inherited

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This Scientific American article that came out yesterday basically says that mouse studies show that tiny intercellular pods convey to sperm a legacy of a father’s stresses in life:


If stress can get passed on then sin can too.

Here’s another older article about epigenetics. They exposed chickens to stress and showed that their response is inherited by their offspring through gene expression:


I wonder what people think about this. This shows that ones behavior in this life can affect future generations. Is this scientific evidence for the concept of inherited sin?
 
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Science can’t prove everything, that in and of itself is not a scientific question. I think this would be more the realm of philosophy and morality than science.
 
It seems to me that we are finding more and more evidence that we are all interconnected in ways we never understood before.

Not that “we are one with everything “, but that the things we do have real world consequences.

St Paul made the comparison of the Church to a body, with different parts that were necessary, and different, but that affected each other.
 
I’m not saying this is proof of anything. I’m just saying this looks like the beginning of evidence for a concept like inherited sin. Just like how the Big Bang Theory is evidence for the beginning of the universe but does not prove that God created the universe
 
In the last few years, I’ve also given up the idea of “private sin”.
The things we do in secret, even if we aren’t caught and nobody knows what we did, affect our hearts and minds and how we behave in the outside world.
So, evil or selfishness in my heart will manifest in the outside world whether I plan it that way or not.
 
Yes exactly. I think about pornography in particular. People say it doesn’t hurt anybody so it must not be bad. But it definitely affects the user’s ability to love women.
 
It is not the sin itself that is inherited but rather the effects of sin that are inherited.
 
thats pretty much what God told us
Exodus 34.7 for example
who keeps loving kindness for thousands, who forgives iniquity, transgression and sin; yet He will by no means leave the guilty unpunished, visiting the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generations."

It also explains the correlations between family traits that are suspected of being passed on. For example an abusive father will more likely have an abusive son.
Also i don’t believe in the deception of evolution.
Interesting Thanks for sharing
EDIT Just to say the study says fathers not Mothers as well, just as the bible states the sins of the Father never the Mother.
 
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It is not the sin itself that is inherited but rather the effects of sin that are inherited.
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It’s neither. It is the PROPENSITY to commit sin which is inherited.

If you are meek and mild and like reading Chaucer and your neighbour is a hard drinking, truck-loving hunter who likes to let his fists do the talking, then you have a different genetic makeup. Allowing for nurture, then nature will produce children that reasonably match their father’s personality.
 
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I’m not saying this is proof of anything. I’m just saying this looks like the beginning of evidence for a concept like inherited sin. Just like how the Big Bang Theory is evidence for the beginning of the universe but does not prove that God created the universe
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I take it you mean original sin, that is analogical sin, not actual sin.
 
Yes, but if you engage in activities that are the cause of genetic anomalies then your activity then what you have done may have an effect on your children. If what you did was sinful then that sin could well have an effect on your children.
If you inherit a large fortune and you blow it on wine, women, drugs, and gambling then your sinful and imprudent behavior will be the reason your children will inherit nothing.
 
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If stress can get passed on then sin can too.
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How on earth do you make that connection.
You seem to have an unusual definition of sin.

If you are talking about concupiscence or tendancies towards personal sin then we already know that dont we?
I mean “Original Sin”, though of course its not true sin properly speaking.
 
“If stress can get passed on then sin can too.”

Assertion noted. Evidence required.

“Why everything you’ve been told about evolution is wrong.”

Clickbait title not backed up by the content of the article (which by the way was written by a social psychologist not an evolutionary biologist).

The key to intellectual honesty is to seek out and evaluate opinions that don’t conform to your already-held beliefs, not simply look for those that do.
 
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I wonder what people think about this. This shows that ones behavior in this life can affect future generations. Is this scientific evidence for the concept of inherited sin?
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I think tendencies towards certain types of behaviors can be inherited. Sometimes those tendencies can lead to sin if left unchecked.
 
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