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Flopfoot
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Against the odds the ‘Liberal Party’ (which is a centre right socially conservative party) has retained power in Australia
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Melbourne
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LOL there is no centre right party in Australia. We as a nation are very much far Left and both political parties reflect that. It lets people think they actually have freedom of speech.
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Greenfields
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Hooray ! 
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BartholomewB
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On a British website I read that the unexpected election result was largely to do with the trend in the price and reliability of electricity, and that Labour was going to make the situation worse a lot faster than the Liberals/Coalition. Did Scott Morrison campaign overtly against the global warming scare?
Also, the fact that the pollsters got it wrong suggests that Australian voters now routinely lie to the opinion polls, rendering them worthless. Is that your view, as well?
Also, the fact that the pollsters got it wrong suggests that Australian voters now routinely lie to the opinion polls, rendering them worthless. Is that your view, as well?
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Flopfoot
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Climate change wasn’t really mentioned by the Liberals. There was a leadership spill last year where they could have chosen a climate doubter as leader of the party but went with the more moderate Morrison. In practice this means we’ll stick with the Paris agreement (unlike Trump) but probably won’t have a lot of action on climate change in the next few years. I don’t think this issue would have tipped many voters towards Morrison. (FWIW I believe climate change is real).
There are many reasons why he won and also why the polls got it wrong. He was a ‘reluctant leader’ who supported the previous leader (Turnbull) of the party in the spill, so he seemed more like a brand new leader rather than an incumbent up for re-election. He played up the personality angle as he was more likeable than the leader of the opposition (who by contrast was involved with the backstabbing of his party’s previous two leaders and has a dramatic speaking style that sounds fake). The opposition had an overly ambitious economic plan with new taxes and changes to retirement funds that scared people, not to mention housing changes while a lot of people have mortgages. And of course there is the usual left wing being out of touch with people on social issues like gender theory and abortion. A lot of the surprise electorates that went to Liberal were in working class areas.
The polls used to use land lines to call people but now use mobiles, which leads to some sampling bias, but some theorize that the real problem is the sampling companies overcompensate for sampling bias and end up swinging the other way. Plus as you say some people are ashamed to publicly admit to being conservatives but have no fear of voting that way in private. (Accusations of “racism” related to issues of refugees, Islam, native Australians etc. fly as thick and fast here as they do in other countries, especially with the recent violent attack in New Zealand). But there might be a way to salvage the concept of polling
There are many reasons why he won and also why the polls got it wrong. He was a ‘reluctant leader’ who supported the previous leader (Turnbull) of the party in the spill, so he seemed more like a brand new leader rather than an incumbent up for re-election. He played up the personality angle as he was more likeable than the leader of the opposition (who by contrast was involved with the backstabbing of his party’s previous two leaders and has a dramatic speaking style that sounds fake). The opposition had an overly ambitious economic plan with new taxes and changes to retirement funds that scared people, not to mention housing changes while a lot of people have mortgages. And of course there is the usual left wing being out of touch with people on social issues like gender theory and abortion. A lot of the surprise electorates that went to Liberal were in working class areas.
The polls used to use land lines to call people but now use mobiles, which leads to some sampling bias, but some theorize that the real problem is the sampling companies overcompensate for sampling bias and end up swinging the other way. Plus as you say some people are ashamed to publicly admit to being conservatives but have no fear of voting that way in private. (Accusations of “racism” related to issues of refugees, Islam, native Australians etc. fly as thick and fast here as they do in other countries, especially with the recent violent attack in New Zealand). But there might be a way to salvage the concept of polling
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Trishie
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it doesn’t signify that Australians lie.
It was a very confusing election campaign.
And who are those people being polled? From what demographic and where?
Nobody asked me!
My husband and I were still troubleshootng the question of who-not-to-vote-for just before we walked down to to vote after breakfast. I doubt we were alone in this dilemma.
We weren’t keen about electing either of the candidates for PM.
May God bless the Opposition and the one who missed out on the Prime Ministership after a determined effort.
And may God bless the one who was elected and his surprising majority government.
Hopefully the elected government will do well for the people of Australia.
The PM’s enthusiastic Pentacostal Christian faith. (his opponent educated by Jesuits and later converted to Protestantism) might indicate that Christian values might not be a casualty in the immediate future.
For all issues affecting the Australian people, we’ll wait and see…
It was a very confusing election campaign.
And who are those people being polled? From what demographic and where?
Nobody asked me!
My husband and I were still troubleshootng the question of who-not-to-vote-for just before we walked down to to vote after breakfast. I doubt we were alone in this dilemma.
We weren’t keen about electing either of the candidates for PM.
May God bless the Opposition and the one who missed out on the Prime Ministership after a determined effort.
And may God bless the one who was elected and his surprising majority government.
Hopefully the elected government will do well for the people of Australia.
The PM’s enthusiastic Pentacostal Christian faith. (his opponent educated by Jesuits and later converted to Protestantism) might indicate that Christian values might not be a casualty in the immediate future.
For all issues affecting the Australian people, we’ll wait and see…
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