Scripture… is it sufficient

[Athanasiy]

oudave:

You have thrown away the authority to interperate scripture,you threw away oral tradition,therefore,the sola scriptura with out oral tradition and the authority which were given to the apostles and their succesors has gone in thousands of different directions.God Bless

To: YuRa

Привет !
Как Дела ?

The problem of Evangelicals , our problem is that we separate the Scripture from the Church.
We speak about the Bible, not even as a holly documents, not even as the texts which has to be read by the understanding of the nature of those texts.
We speak about the Bible as the Source which has its existance outside of the Catholic Church.
YuRa ! THERE IS NO BIBLE ! THERE IS THE CHURCH !
We took away some Books from the Bible. We have only 66 Books in our Bible, and we continue to quote that ; He who adds or take from this Book, will be punished by …
The Church who gave us the Salvation Knowledge.
All doctrines related to Salvation belong to the Church.
The Evangelical use of those doctrines is a kind of parasitical application.
And also :
The Four Gospels. ( Notice , not 100, not 3 but the four Catholic Gospels)
The Book of Acts, the Canonical Epistles.
All those documents are the Church documents.

You have to be the literate ( my grand can not read till now)
You have to have the level of Expert- in the Biblical Theology, Biblical History, languages, culture of Israel or ancient languages, and many other skills in order to understand the technical words in the Bible, ability to comprehend and understand the Scripture.
We Evangelicals, DEMAND these skills from every body.
Every body , in order to get the Salvation Knowledge, to find out what Denomination( among thousands) is right.
EVERY BODY has to search, to try,to examine,to test,to explore the Scripture.
Just because God gave to EVERY BODY the Spirit of Discerning and Perception.

On the summer time, I go to the village to my grand parents.
I love this example.
I like to make a games with chickens, they are so funny.
They run after You by instinct , thinking that You are a hen.
They know by instinct there must the hen, the mother.
The same chickens are we,reading the Scripture, without the Church .
The Scripture does not solve the authority problem, the Scripture requires Church Cathechism.:banghead:

But without the Church Authority , Your Bible Study will be like the chicken without hen, who runs after any moving object.

As chicken needs the mother, the hen.
So we need the Church , and her Cathechism in order to understand the Bible, because in the Catholic Cathechism is written:
Can you learn to save your soul just by reading the Bible? No, because certain things in the Bible can be misunderstood, and because the Bible does not have everything God taught

I have got the Bachelors Degree in Theology,in the Evangelical Seminary but I see , I need the Catholic Chatechism for the kids, because in my Seminary I find out that:

1. It is not possible to resolve the problem of differing interpretations of Scripture by an appeal to another interpretation of Scripture.
   2.) We put our trust not on the Scripture, but on the Science. Because , there are some sins , which You can not find out if its sin or not , just reading the Bible.
   3.) We Evangelicals are so sure defending our Bibles , that before You have a question, I have an answer already.

-The Biblical Literalism the Book worship has made us narrow minded, because we do not balance our spiritual understanding of the Bible with reason.
We see , measure, value, every thing by two colors black and white.
All other colors do not exist for us.
Two colors, two camps.
Children of God and children of devol.
Born again and not born again.
Saved and Not saved.
Chosen Elitarity and Damned Sinners.
Spiritual and Secular.Permitted and not permitted.( not permitted because not Spiritual…)
I think this dichotomy is wrong also in understanding of Salvation.
Because the understanding of Salvation is much more then Individual Salvation, and not only the Salvation in the other world.
But its the other topic.
Why the Bible is not enough ?
Because the Bible says, what it says, and no more.
I see how, our Youth Churches are changeable in their opinions, about the Salvation Ideas, Planning of the Family.
I am not a Prophet, but I guess the Bible will not save us from the Liberalism in the Future.
That’s the reason the Teaching of the Catholic Church, her Interpretation of Scripture, has to be followed.
Because the Christ left not a Book but the Church.