Sensitive topics, marriage and relativism?

[fpt]

Last week, I talked to an acquaintance from traditional movement about great issues in the catholic marriage and in the non catholic marriage: separation, divorce, state of husband, state of wife, work of wife, work of husband, education by the couple, conjugal act.

According to him and after many talks with one of priests from SSPX (experience of confession) the principal problematics would be linked to what :

1. Woman does not assume her feminity, she does not want to be a female.
2. Man does not assume his virility (masculinity), he does not want to be a male.
3. Woman does not receive the virility of her husband.
4. Man does not receive the feminity of his wife.
5. Woman does not give her whole feminity to her husband.
6. Man does not give his whole masculinity to his wife.

At the first glance, I am okay, but in details, I could not discuss with him on concret case.

Two questions: Are you okay with that?

In concreto, how to be sure enough to understand the same thing if we avoid the sensitive topics without being too explicit and graphic??? Talking in general, in abstracto, is easy, but with real elements of life of couple, it is more difficult.

With the relativism, when we are talking on something, we are not sure to debate on the same elements that form the topic. Are you okay?

 

[Rence]

Two questions: Are you okay with that?

I’m okay with people thinking that they have meet certain cultural expectations, or fit themselves into a certain mold in order conform to a formula that definines “feminine” or “masculine” as long as they don’t try to get others to conform to their personal definitions of feminine or masculine. They have to live with them and their choices, and I certainly am the only one to live with my choices.

In concreto, how to be sure enough to understand the same thing if we avoid the sensitive topics without being too explicit and graphic??? Talking in general, in abstracto, is easy, but with real elements of life of couple, it is more difficult.

I understand the need to network with like-minded people, but these are topics best discussed between the couple and their spiritual director. People come from all walks of life, and different cultures and environments. We’re not all going to fit the same mold. But a good spiritual director can work with different cultures and backgrounds to come up with correct answer to questions and can help couples work through these topics without partiality.

With the relativism, when we are talking on something, we are not sure to debate on the same elements that form the topic. Are you okay?

What are you asking here?

 

[fpt]

I’m okay with people thinking that they have meet certain cultural expectations, or fit themselves into a certain mold in order conform to a formula that definines “feminine” or “masculine” as long as they don’t try to get others to conform to their personal definitions of feminine or masculine. They have to live with them and their choices, and I certainly am the only one to live with my choices.

I understand the need to network with like-minded people, but these are topics best discussed between the couple and their spiritual director. People come from all walks of life, and different cultures and environments. We’re not all going to fit the same mold. But a good spiritual director can work with different cultures and backgrounds to come up with correct answer to questions and can help couples work through these topics without partiality.

What are you asking here?

With the relativism, when we are talking on something, we are not sure to debate on the same elements that form the topic. Are you okay?

What are you asking here?

When for instance we are talking about the feminity in the catholic marriage to catholic friends with general words - in abstracto, theoretical approach - it is so difficult to know if behind each term, we understand the same thing. Because the topic can be graphic et explicit, speaking with images and with academical terms, we can understand different realities.

The issue is how to be sure that there is no a great gap about acceptions of concepts. Relativism is dangerous, words can be several senses, meanings, acceptions. How to be certain that we talk about the same reality, the same subject in a catholic approach?

 

[Exsilivm]

How to be certain that we talk about the same reality, the same subject in a catholic approach?

We must talk with specific words. “Precisement.”