"Shadow People" and Demons

[CHRISTINE77]

Why what?

Why not take some experiences as exceptional?

The interesting thing about sleep paralysis is that everyone who experiences it senses something evil, never something good or benign. Also the sound of the footsteps in the room and the dark figure by the bed are universal. It seems odd that everyone sees the same thing and senses an evil presence, and often the way they get rid of it is by praying. To me this is more than a mental phenomena.

 

[SyroMalankara]

Why not take some experiences as exceptional?

The interesting thing about sleep paralysis is that everyone who experiences it senses something evil, never something good or benign. Also the sound of the footsteps in the room and the dark figure by the bed are universal. It seems odd that everyone sees the same thing and senses an evil presence, and often the way they get rid of it is by praying. To me this is more than a mental phenomena.

Mental? Most of us saying to go see a doctor are saying it is physical, not mental at all.

Shortness of breath, paralysis and a semi-awake state can cause fear to escalate, and all kinds of hallucinations seem real.

Have you ever felt a falling down/jolt when sleeping seated? That’s not a demon slapping the back of your head, it’s a physical phenomenon. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnic_jerk

 

[CHRISTINE77]

Mental? Most of us saying to go see a doctor are saying it is physical, not mental at all.

Shortness of breath, paralysis and a semi-awake state can cause fear to escalate, and all kinds of hallucinations seem real.

Have you ever felt a falling down/jolt when sleeping seated? That’s not a demon slapping the back of your head, it’s a physical phenomenon. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnic_jerk

Mental or physical, sleep paralysis still is a very odd phenomena, and definitely seems to be something evil.

 

[SyroMalankara]

Mental or physical, sleep paralysis still is a very odd phenomena, and definitely seems to be something evil.

webmd.com/sleep-disorders/features/sleep-paralysis-demon-in-the-bedroom

I tend to follow the non-supernatural explanation first, if it makes sense then dismiss it as something that simple. Sure it “could” be evil but paralysis itself is explainable without the demonic, besides this, we belong to Christ as members of the One True Faith. I will fear no evil, nor put stock in any power over God.

 

[CHRISTINE77]

webmd.com/sleep-disorders/features/sleep-paralysis-demon-in-the-bedroom

I tend to follow the non-supernatural explanation first, if it makes sense then dismiss it as something that simple. Sure it “could” be evil but paralysis itself is explainable without the demonic, besides this, we belong to Christ as members of the One True Faith. I will fear no evil, nor put stock in any power over God.

I think there are some interesting scientific explanations for sleep paralysis, but still…
I tend to pray the St. Michael prayer a lot. And the Lord’s prayer: " …and deliver us from evil…"! Of course God is my stregnth and my salvation, but those demons can do a lot of harm.

 

[HillsongUnited]

Excluding sleep paralysis, there have been numerous people who have seen shadow people/demons, and not just from the corner of their eye or even at night. As I mentioned in my earlier post, both my cousins saw one at the same time in the early afternoon. Also, an old neighbor of ours saw one when she was eating breakfast with her daughter. I admit that they are rare, but they do happen and we should always be on guard.

 

[Thewetnoodle]

This is interesting stuff. I admit I don’t know too much about this but I this eerily reminds me of certain nightmare I have had before.

 

[SyroMalankara]

Excluding sleep paralysis, there have been numerous people who have seen shadow people/demons, and not just from the corner of their eye or even at night. As I mentioned in my earlier post, both my cousins saw one at the same time in the early afternoon. Also, an old neighbor of ours saw one when she was eating breakfast with her daughter. I admit that they are rare, but they do happen and we should always be on guard.

Would a well lit room with no lighting being blocked to form shadows stop them from appearing?

 

[HillsongUnited]

Would a well lit room with no lighting being blocked to form shadows stop them from appearing?

This happened in the daytime and the shadow/spirit was 3D looking AND seemed to be materializing in the form of their brother. I say seemed because it had the appearance of their brother but was as they described a 3D shadow and the eyes were vaguely luminous if that makes sense. In the other incident, my neighbor and her daughter saw it in the daytime as well. It watched them for a little bit, moved a bit in one direction and then seemed to think otherwise and faded into the wall. I personally have never seen one, but I have had other run ins with the spirit world and trust me, I was NEVER a superstitious person, until these things started happening. I have looked into all other possible explanations, but when more than one or even two people see the same thing it is hard to dismiss it.

 

[SyroMalankara]

This happened in the daytime and the shadow/spirit was 3D looking AND seemed to be materializing in the form of their brother. I say seemed because it had the appearance of their brother but was as they described a 3D shadow and the eyes were vaguely luminous if that makes sense. In the other incident, my neighbor and her daughter saw it in the daytime as well. It watched them for a little bit, moved a bit in one direction and then seemed to think otherwise and faded into the wall. I personally have never seen one, but I have had other run ins with the spirit world and trust me, I was NEVER a superstitious person, until these things started happening. I have looked into all other possible explanations, but when more than one or even two people see the same thing it is hard to dismiss it.

And the brother is alive? Are you sure there isn’t some light source and/or mirror positioned in an odd way which could cause an image to reflect when light bounces off it in some manner? Did all these people see the same thing around the same time each day, in the same house?

 

[HillsongUnited]

And the brother is alive? Are you sure there isn’t some light source and/or mirror positioned in an odd way which could cause an image to reflect when light bounces off it in some manner? Did all these people see the same thing around the same time each day, in the same house?

Brother is still alive, yes. He was out of the house at that time in class. The shadow person/spirit whatever, as I mentioned, resembled their brother, but as a 3D looking shadow with luminous eyes. Both gals saw it and flipped out. No, some curtains cover the entire window and dark 3D shadows would not be possible even if the curtains were open. There wasn’t a mirror in the room at the time either. Actually, the only mirrors in the house were in the restroom on the other side of the house and my aunts room also at the other end.

The other incident happened at my neighbors house and the shadow person/spirit stood by the doorway in the hall, stared at them for a while, made as if to go one way, thought better of it, and disappeared along the other direction.

 

[HillsongUnited]

Brother is still alive, yes. He was out of the house at that time in class. The shadow person/spirit whatever, as I mentioned, resembled their brother, but as a 3D looking shadow with luminous eyes. Both gals saw it and flipped out. No, some curtains cover the entire window and dark 3D shadows would not be possible even if the curtains were open. There wasn’t a mirror in the room at the time either. Actually, the only mirrors in the house were in the restroom on the other side of the house and my aunts room also at the other end.

The other incident happened at my neighbors house and the shadow person/spirit stood by the doorway in the hall, stared at them for a while, made as if to go one way, thought better of it, and disappeared along the other direction.

I should add that whether the curtains were open or not would not matter because the room was still lit due to it being the early afternoon. Also, in terms of shadow people/spirits, we’re not talking about vague dark shapes. From what I’ve heard, these things very obviously resemble people. 3D shadows with arms, legs, a head, etc. My neighbor, when she told us about her experience said that the shadow resembled a small child due to it’s size and appearance. Although, bear in mind, some people have seen tiny ones that kind of scurry along the walls, etc.

 

[claymcdermott]

When you are in REM (dreamy time in the sleep cycle), your body doesn’t want you running around.
SO, it releases a chemical into your cerebral cortex to keep you from acting out your dreams (cause in a dream you REALLY SEE STUFF, for REAL, you REALLY experience it. It doesn’t exist outside of your mind, but you REALLY experience it).

Now, should someone, in a dream state awake enough to be aware that they were paralyzed, with the feeling of pressure on their chests, would not the dream turn negative? And if the person found comfort in prayer, could this not mitigate those negative emotions?

In fact, sleep studies prove this is what happens. When people who suffer sleep paralysis experience these hallucinations under observation, we can see how their brain activity is working: REM, active “pause button” as someone put it, and negative emotional response.

Besides, think about how people used to describe these phenomena:
incubi and succubi
vampires
UFOs
Shadow people
It follows more what’s big in folklore and urban legends than anything else.

Plus, waking dreams, even for people who experience sleep paralysis, are not *always *negative, people just don’t seek help for non-negative things.

If anyone has Netflix, may I reccomend the episodes of Is It Real? on UFOs?

Not saying there are never any ooky spookies in life, but it is definitely worth TALKING to a sleep specialist, or TALKING to someone else. What could possibly be the harm in going to a sleep specialist or neurologist?

 

[runningdude]

Why not take some experiences as exceptional?

The interesting thing about sleep paralysis is that everyone who experiences it senses something evil, never something good or benign. Also the sound of the footsteps in the room and the dark figure by the bed are universal. It seems odd that everyone sees the same thing and senses an evil presence, and often the way they get rid of it is by praying. To me this is more than a mental phenomena.

This is all unsubstantiated.

You would need to provide substantial evidence of such congruity of experiences, at a minimum. Secondly, even if such congruence existed, you would need to explain why it would be more plausible that demonic activity is the cause of the sense of “something evil”, than say a mere nightmare and heighten emotional state of fear being the immediate cause.