Sharing the Faith, not debating it?

[Wakko9001]

This is probably going to sound so soft, so ignorant, so whatever… but hear me out.

Now, if you’re an activist, and you’re going out, doing protests and holding debates for God - if you feel that this is what must be done, go right ahead. But, I never liked the idea of arguing/protesting for God, and for what is right. I feel that God and His Word should be shared in a way, that doesn’t anger people, but welcomes them. I mean, when you people like Limbaugh and Perry giving their political views, yeah, they’re going to be bashed. But why? Because it’s politics. When you hear “politics”, you think controversy, angry debates, statistics, and a division among people. But when you have people that truly share or talk about the Faith (like Father Kapaun, Mr. Fred Rogers, and Alice Cooper (yeah, he’s Christian)), they get respect from even atheists. They didn’t focus on homosexuality and contraception as much as politicians (granted, Fr. Kapaun was from a time where that didn’t matter), but cared more about having a true relationship with our Father, and wanting to share that love. I’ve always felt that, if you want someone to change their view on homosexuality, abortion, etc., you have to make them feel more welcome and less pressured. Wouldn’t it be easier to explain the “political sins” to hopeful converts, that way? Or, these hopeful-converts can learn what the Bible teaches by themselves. Either way, it would make our view on homosexuality less “hateful”, and more understandable.

I’m not saying that we need to stop Christian politics/activists. However, we need more evangelists, who truly know how to spread The Word - with love, compassion, and understanding. I feel like this is why we have been receiving immense criticism over the past few years. Again, this just might be my young impressionable mind, but I’ve had this on my mind for a while.

Thank you for reading, and God bless.

 

[Wakko9001]

Well, Limbaugh isn’t actually that professional (is he even officially a politician?)… BUT YOU GET THE POINT.

 

[Adamski]

Have you heard of Steve Dawson and st Paul street evangelation he sounds like his organization is doing this

People need to know Jesus before they can change not change because Jesus says so.

 

[AuntyP]

This is probably going to sound so soft, so ignorant, so whatever… but hear me out.

Now, if you’re an activist, and you’re going out, doing protests and holding debates for God - if you feel that this is what must be done, go right ahead. But, I never liked the idea of arguing/protesting for God, and for what is right. I feel that God and His Word should be shared in a way, that doesn’t anger people, but welcomes them. I mean, when you people like Limbaugh and Perry giving their political views, yeah, they’re going to be bashed. But why? Because it’s politics. When you hear “politics”, you think controversy, angry debates, statistics, and a division among people. But when you have people that truly share or talk about the Faith (like Father Kapaun, Mr. Fred Rogers, and Alice Cooper (yeah, he’s Christian)), they get respect from even atheists. They didn’t focus on homosexuality and contraception as much as politicians (granted, Fr. Kapaun was from a time where that didn’t matter), but cared more about having a true relationship with our Father, and wanting to share that love. I’ve always felt that, if you want someone to change their view on homosexuality, abortion, etc., you have to make them feel more welcome and less pressured. Wouldn’t it be easier to explain the “political sins” to hopeful converts, that way? Or, these hopeful-converts can learn what the Bible teaches by themselves. Either way, it would make our view on homosexuality less “hateful”, and more understandable.

I’m not saying that we need to stop Christian politics/activists. However, we need more evangelists, who truly know how to spread The Word - with love, compassion, and understanding. I feel like this is why we have been receiving immense criticism over the past few years. Again, this just might be my young impressionable mind, but I’ve had this on my mind for a while.

Thank you for reading, and God bless.

Although I have been “lurking” on the forum for some time, this is my first post. Your comment about making our view on homosexuality less “hateful” and more understandable is what has prompted me to respond. I’m sick and tired of the gay lobby misrepresenting our Church’s stance on homosexuality as hateful, and I fear that you have fallen for their garbage. Who is hateful in the gay debate? The Church that preaches we must love everyone while condemning sin, or the lobby that preaches hatred against us and carries out acts of profanity in our holy places? The gay lobby attacks us because they know that we won’t reciprocate using their violent, hateful, debauched tactics. It will be interesting to see how they will be treated if they ever have the effrontery to hold a “kiss-in” in somewhere like Mecca. I guarantee that they won’t get a “who am I to judge?” response from the local immam. Time for Catholics to stop back-pedalling from these people and show them up for the bullies that they are.

We Catholics have as much right as anyone else to put forward our vision of what is best for the society in which we live and pay our taxes.

 

[Wakko9001]

Although I have been “lurking” on the forum for some time, this is my first post. Your comment about making our view on homosexuality less “hateful” and more understandable is what has prompted me to respond. I’m sick and tired of the gay lobby misrepresenting our Church’s stance on homosexuality as hateful, and I fear that you have fallen for their garbage. Who is hateful in the gay debate? The Church that preaches we must love everyone while condemning sin, or the lobby that preaches hatred against us and carries out acts of profanity in our holy places? The gay lobby attacks us because they know that we won’t reciprocate using their violent, hateful, debauched tactics. It will be interesting to see how they will be treated if they ever have the effrontery to hold a “kiss-in” in somewhere like Mecca. I guarantee that they won’t get a “who am I to judge?” response from the local immam. Time for Catholics to stop back-pedalling from these people and show them up for the bullies that they are.

We Catholics have as much right as anyone else to put forward our vision of what is best for the society in which we live and pay our taxes.

I didn’t mean to say, that our belief against homosexuality is hateful. Notice how I put it in quotation marks. I meant it in a way, that refers to how modern society has mistakenly called our belief “hateful”. Because of that, it is harder for people to convert to Christianity. Maybe I should rephrase what I said…

Sorry for the misunderstanding, and welcome to the Forums, by the way.

 

[Wakko9001]

This is probably going to sound so soft, so ignorant, so whatever… but hear me out.

Now, if you’re an activist, and you’re going out, doing protests and holding debates for God - if you feel that this is what must be done, go right ahead. But, I never liked the idea of arguing/protesting for God, and for what is right. I feel that God and His Word should be shared in a way, that doesn’t anger people, but welcomes them. I mean, when you people like Limbaugh and Perry giving their political views, yeah, they’re going to be bashed. But why? Because it’s politics. When you hear “politics”, you think controversy, angry debates, statistics, and a division among people. But when you have people that truly share or talk about the Faith (like Father Kapaun, Mr. Fred Rogers, and Alice Cooper (yeah, he’s Christian)), they get respect from even atheists. They didn’t focus on homosexuality and contraception as much as politicians (granted, Fr. Kapaun was from a time where that didn’t matter), but cared more about having a true relationship with our Father, and wanting to share that love. I’ve always felt that, if you want someone to change their view on homosexuality, abortion, etc., you have to make them feel more welcome and less pressured. Wouldn’t it be easier to explain the “political sins” to hopeful converts, that way? Or, these hopeful-converts can learn what the Bible teaches by themselves. Either way, it would make our view on homosexuality seem less “hateful” (hateful, according to mistaken modern society), and more understandable.

I’m not saying that we need to stop Christian politics/activists. However, we need more evangelists, who truly know how to spread The Word - with love, compassion, and understanding. I feel like this is why we have been receiving immense criticism over the past few years. Again, this just might be my young impressionable mind, but I’ve had this on my mind for a while.

Thank you for reading, and God bless.

 

[AuntyP]

I didn’t mean to say, that our belief against homosexuality is hateful. Notice how I put it in quotation marks. I meant it in a way, that refers to how modern society has mistakenly called our belief “hateful”. Because of that, it is harder for people to convert to Christianity. Maybe I should rephrase what I said…

Sorry for the misunderstanding, and welcome to the Forums, by the way.

Modern society mistakenly calls our belief hateful because the gay lobby has succeeded in portraying it as such. Catholics pandering apologetically to the gay lobby’s propaganda expounded by their media hacks has merely served to embolden them. Time to stop the pandering and expose the bullies for what they are. Putin sees through them and isn’t using any softly softly approach. Neither do the Muslims cut them any slack, but you don’t see the likes of the BBC or CNN encouraging them to commit sacrilege at Muslim holy places. Anti-Catholic is ok in their eyes, but all things Islamic must be treated with kid gloves. As I said before, I look forward to the response they receive when they try to pull the same stunt in Mecca that they did in the Vatican. I won’t hold my breath because bullies only prey on those they perceive to be weak.

 

[Charlemagne_II]

I agree with Aunty.

There may be more people who convert to Catholicism because we stand firm for what we believe, than those who convert because they want to spiritually cuddle with us. The Church of England is losing members to the Catholic Church by the thousands just for that reason.

 

[Judas_Thaddeus]

(Too depressed to read more, but in answering the title):

Both are necessary. Share the Faith with others and have publicly viewed debates against groups such as Mormons, Muslims, and Unitarian “christians”. I watch them all the time on my computer, they are really insightful and enlightening on Christianity and even what it’s up against.

Saint Jude commands us to contend earnestly for the Faith, so debate. Mormon Apostle Orson Pratt said ““Convince us of our errors of Doctrine, if we have any, by reason, by logical arguments, or by the Word of God and we will ever be grateful for the information…”, so debate, debate, debate!

Compare and Contrast the different religions, show the error of others, prove Christianity not only Most True, but Ultimately Logical.