Should people participate in experiments without their explicit consent?

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It looks like the John Harris and Peter Sanger are cut from the same cloth.
 
“The argument on the obligation to participate in research should be compelling for anyone who believes there is a moral obligation to help others, to be just and do one’s share. Little can be said to those whose morality is so impoverished that they do not accept these obligations”,
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Apparently this man is not familiar with the concept of “freedom”
Also, if I may make the point, isn’t “forcing your morality on others” supposed to be bad, according to liberals?.
 
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Apparently this man is not familiar with the concept of “freedom”
Also, if I may make the point, isn’t “forcing your morality on others” supposed to be bad, according to liberals?.
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Sounds like this so-called scientist does not have morals.

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Sounds like this so-called scientist does not have morals.

PF
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PF:

People seem to forget that ALL of the Nazi “Research” was coerced. The same for the Japanese "Research on various kinds of biological agents in WW II… And, Let’s not for the Tuskegee Experiments in the 1930’s through 1950’s that documented the course of syphillus at the cost of dozns of human lives.

I don’t think ANY of the people who participated in the experiments, even the Tuskegee Experiments where participation was “voluntary” but UNINFORMED, would participate in them willingly.

There are reasons that researchers are required to comform to the Guidelines for Ethical Research or their work won’t be funded or published.

Blessed are they who act to save the Innocent, Michael
 
This scientist’s proposal is outrageous. I think the last person who did this was named “Adolf Hitler”. :mad:

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Should people participate in experiments without their explicit consent?

no!!!
 
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PF:

People seem to forget that ALL of the Nazi “Research” was coerced. The same for the Japanese "Research on various kinds of biological agents in WW II… And, Let’s not for the Tuskegee Experiments in the 1930’s through 1950’s that documented the course of syphillus at the cost of dozns of human lives.

I don’t think ANY of the people who participated in the experiments, even the Tuskegee Experiments where participation was “voluntary” but UNINFORMED, would participate in them willingly.

There are reasons that researchers are required to comform to the Guidelines for Ethical Research or their work won’t be funded or published.

Blessed are they who act to save the Innocent, Michael
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I was trying to avoid references to Josef Mengele and the Nazi atrocities, but you are right. However in todays age of Moral Relativism, people are being forced into things (abortion, sterilization, and euthanasia) by the Culture of Perversion that they would never be involved in.

PF
 
Don’t forget that most medical center bioethicists have strong ties to the drug industry and must sign off as “ethical” any research programs done at a university. It’s all mostly a sham with the limits of what is ethical being broadened to suit what the drug companies need.

Then when everyone is happy that all is ethical, the research begins one the next multibillion dollar drug. Widening the subject base and streamlining consent to participate, even coercing it, will save the drug companies time and money.

This guy is no disinterested philosopher, he’s a paid hack.
 
Dear friends

No Board of Ethics panel , if they are truly a Board of Ethics would ever allow such a thing. The moral and financial repercussions of such actions would be astronomical.

I find in life there is always a lunatic in every camp and always one waiting in the wings with an idea that just about seems plausible in some shape or form on the surface justified as to the benefit of the masses but underneath it is full of abohrrent consequences.

Seems we are witnessing the actions of yet another lunatic! Mostly people are deceived into thinking they are harmless lunatics, when on the whole, they are quite deadly!

As the saying goes…

'There is always ONE…:whacky: ’

God Bless you and much love and peace to you

Teresa
 
Are you asking about giving people drugs against their will, or about doing psychological experiments against their knowledge by altering their environment and observing what happens?

They already use our tissue samples without our real consent for all sorts of medical studies, afaik. I bet many of us have been in studies that we don’t know about.
 
If we sent a group of liberals to an isolated island for a year, would any of them come back as a conservative?
 
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