Sign of the times? What to believe?

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While growing up, we had a priest named Fr. Albert Roux. Maybe some are familiar with him, as he is head of the Marian Movement of Priests in the US. While preaching, he spoke often of the internal locutions Fr. Gobbi received from our Blessed Mother.
Fr. Roux spoke of hard times to come, 3 days of darkness, people killing eachother for no reason. This priest had me so afraid that at night when all was quiet if I heard a jet fly overhead in the sky, I was sure it was a nuclear bomb and we were all to be killed.

I know Rome doesn’t accept the Marian Movement.(I know there is a better word. I am stumbling to find it!)

Now, as a Catholic adult, I find myself wondering if the tribulation, chastisement, antichrist, and end are NEAR as Fr. Roux would preach. Do a search on end times and the protestants think that they are all going to be “raptured” any moment. Do a search for Catholic sites on end times and nothing comes up. It seems as Catholics, we are not much concerned about what is going on in the world (earthquakes, hurricanes) as being a “sign of the times”.
All the protestants look for are the sign of the times. Some are even leaving behind rapture letters for us Catholics who won’t be raptured. (SILLY!)

Check out this site www.sign.org/index.phtml
What is your opinion of this site? Is it possible that these people are really receiveing messages about end times? As a Catholic should I disregard this?

My mother told me that every generation has thought that the end was near and not to be afraid. (I know her advice is RIGHT!)
 
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Jocelyn:
While growing up, we had a priest named Fr. Albert Roux. Maybe some are familiar with him, as he is head of the Marian Movement of Priests in the US. While preaching, he spoke often of the internal locutions Fr. Gobbi received from our Blessed Mother.
Fr. Roux spoke of hard times to come, 3 days of darkness, people killing eachother for no reason. This priest had me so afraid that at night when all was quiet if I heard a jet fly overhead in the sky, I was sure it was a nuclear bomb and we were all to be killed.

I know Rome doesn’t accept the Marian Movement.(I know there is a better word. I am stumbling to find it!)

Now, as a Catholic adult, I find myself wondering if the tribulation, chastisement, antichrist, and end are NEAR as Fr. Roux would preach. Do a search on end times and the protestants think that they are all going to be “raptured” any moment. Do a search for Catholic sites on end times and nothing comes up. It seems as Catholics, we are not much concerned about what is going on in the world (earthquakes, hurricanes) as being a “sign of the times”.
All the protestants look for are the sign of the times. Some are even leaving behind rapture letters for us Catholics who won’t be raptured. (SILLY!)

Check out this site www.sign.org/index.phtml
What is your opinion of this site? Is it possible that these people are really receiveing messages about end times? As a Catholic should I disregard this?

My mother told me that every generation has thought that the end was near and not to be afraid. (I know her advice is RIGHT!)
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I say disregard the site. Christ said the Father is the only one who knows the time of the end. None of these people know when it will be. Fr. Gobbi has made false pradictions as I remember. I think he predicted the world was going to end in the 90’s. It’s still here so I would say he is wrong.

There is a prediction of 3 days of darkness, but it is only a private revelation. It is not necessarily true. Don’t worry about the end times, think about what you will do today.
 
There is a wonderful man, John Martignoni, who runs a website

www.biblechristiansociety.com

for free he will send you the talk he gives on the Rapture nonsense and the Catholic theological teachings on this whole endtime stuff.

I am studying to be a Marian Catechist, under the direction of Archbishop Burke. While I do not know anything about the Marian Movement you described, I know that many times well meaning, Christ loving priests and lay people can misinterpret the teachings of the Holy Mother Church. You are right to ask questions, and look to find out what is the TRUTH and what is just, well, silliness and scary stories.

I hope this will help you…it really helped me. John does a wonderful talk on this subject, and others. Please check out his sight.
 
I am most certainly not waiting for any 3 days of darkness and a general repentance to follow. The Church has not approved this message and there is nothing in Scripture that even remotely refers to it. Sadly, Catholics can be just as liable to false messages and interpretations as anyone else. Such messages might get some to clean up their act, but mostly they titillate more than producing any lasting fruits. Frankly the whole issue makes want to :yawn: .
 
I did briefly check out your link to the website, I have some mixed feelings. A bit nervous about the notes from Jesus, but I think I need more time.

I checked out your profile to see your birth year, not to fear we are from the same year, so it clued me in on some things I was going through a few years ago. I did read the Lahaye Left Behind series, about 1/2 way through I realized they were anti-Catholic, but I liked the story line. Growing up as a Cradle Catholic, the book of Revelation was not talked about very much. This of cousre made me more curious about it. There were lots of books and movies based [with lots of artistic liscencing used 😃 !] on the Book Of Rev.

The best thing for you to do is read Scott Hahn’s The Lamb’s Supper . Scott was also very curious about the book of Rev which actually caused his conversion because his own faith could not answer his questions about the book. The book is very apocalyptic in style which means lots of doom and symbolism. As with any piece of lit with symbolism, many have conflicting ideas to it’s meaning. Most make up a meaning they want it to be and they find the proof. Ok, so take the Left Behind Series, the authors go through the books saying all of this written in Rev is very litteral, but when you get to the end, when Jesus shows up, he says it all of a sudden turns sybolistic and he even ends th ebook not able to answer some big questions he even brings up. I just found it interesting. The reason he could not answer the questions, his faith does not have a stance on those questions, but the Catholic faith does.

Here is a quick sum up from what I have discovered,
  1. Rapture already happened. It was when Jesus died on the cross and raptured all the souls waitting to enter Heaven.
  2. Tribulation, well our time line is no where near what God’s time line is. For example, he told Adam and Eve an redeemer would come to save them from sin, and look how long it took by our standards. Tribulation is a time inwhich we are all having to deal with the challenges of evil, which for us is every hour of every day!
  3. the new kingdom, the Catholic Church, now referred to as the RC church since others needed to define us from them (Byzantine). If you look at it from the apsotles’ eyes, going from 12+ believers to over 8 billion that is quite a kingdom. (here is a big place where Lahaye goes wrong. He wants to say the kingdom will be a new place created for all the believers, he actually has Mr Steel question something important to his faith. If all the believers both ones who made it through the trib and ones who were in Heaven will live together (Mr Steele has 2 wives at this point because of one being taken during the rapture), who is he married to and where do the children come from who will only live 100 years if they do not believe in God? He says Jesus is coming to judge us again and again and again. Once in the Rapture, once in his return, and apparently again in another coming!!! :confused:
As Catholics we believe we are living in the Kingdom of God and when Jesus returns it will be the only time “to judge the living and the dead” not the living and the living. The doom and gloom in the bk of Rev predicted the changes that were to be made, like the destroying of the huge Jewish temple and the end of animal sacrifices. Jesus is the ultimate sacrifice and by his death he opened up our ability to go to God. This was why only the high priest could offer the sacrifes in the temple. SO, read more in Hahn’s book. It shows you how he rediscovered what the orginal meaning of the book was according to the early church fathers. It is a blueprint for the church and the mass. It also has some clues as to why we venerate Mary and believe her to have been Coronated in Heaven as the Queen in Heaven.

As for searching for signs, does it really matter? You should always be trying to get right with God because for the person who died today, this is their day of judgement. Trying to look for the signs is like trying to gamble on what is the best time to decide to follow God. There is a lot of superstition out there, but if you are fight with God there is no need to worry. Or as a priest once said, if a world leader all of a sudden errects a 150 foot statue of himself in our church, then we might need to worry, but probably more than if it is a sign of the end times.
 
This won’t be much of a help but all I can say the apocalpse will come when it comes. You can’t do much by worrying about it.

If your REALLY concerned live every day like a saint! If the sites right your in the clear :D. If its wrong, your still in the clear :D!
 
you know not the hour when the master of the house is coming, so always keep watch…

or something like that.

I have a friend who believes that, because he simply believes Jesus Christ exists and is God he is saved (even though he still lives in sin, and probably doesn’t know the definition of penance). He spends much of his time with other people of the same opinion trying to figure out the end of the world. He gets so excited about the end of the world. He has no concept of suffering. The value of it. The meaning of it. Ultimately, I think a lot of these rapture/left behind type of people are selfish. They refuse to think about all the generations after them who deserve the gift of life because THEY suffer. They’ve missed the point.

Now the last days began when Jesus was still walking the earth. We’ve been living in the last days for 2000 years. The end of the world is always present, and always right around the corner. If you look for the signs, they will be there. The bible talks about birth pangs. Slow movements. It’s a cycle, that’s been set into things since the beginning (look, for example, at the liturgical year).

Here’s what you should remember though.

One, every knee shall bow to Christ and recognize him as the true God.

By living the gospel, you will be saved.

In the bible it says (I don’t know exactly where) that God loves us so much, that he holds back the day of judgement so that no one may perish.

In the eyes of eternity, 2000 years isn’t really a long time. How many more generations of people deserve to live. How many souls in purgatory need our prayers?

In any case, don’t worry about the end of the world.

Be not afraid.
 
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