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So today I was talking with someone, let’s call him Dave, and the conversation turned to Heaven and could it actually be a utopia.
So Dave’s point was that he looked at human nature now. He asked that, suppose a child and their parent on Earth fight. An eternity spent together would eventually lead to fights. (I’m summarizing.) And that for there to be no bad, there’d be no free will.
My response fell along the lines of that in Heaven we no longer have a desire to sin. That we would freely choose to do good. I also asked if, given a chance, if he would get rid of the bad parts of himself.
His answer was no, that they’re part of who he is.
At the time I didn’t have a good point on that matter to bring up, but if I ever wind up in a discussion like it again, I would like thoughts on an analogy I thought of afterwards.
Suppose I compared sin to a drug. Let us liken The Fall of Adam and Eve to a parent that takes a drug. They become addicted. There is an unhealthy attraction to this drug that’s passed on. Now a person may know a drug is wrong. They see its bad effects and know it’s harmful. They know it’s bad, but the addiction keeps drawing them to it or having a desire for it even if they refrain. In this analogy, they get to Heaven. The addiction is gone. The addiction to the harmful drug is gone. And not only is it gone, but they learn a lot more about what the drug does to a body. They truly understand now in ways they never did before just how terrible the drug is. And to top it all off, what they tried to fill with the drug, love, joy, is with them. Would this person ever want to take the drug?
So is that a decent analogy? Or are there gaping holes?
So Dave’s point was that he looked at human nature now. He asked that, suppose a child and their parent on Earth fight. An eternity spent together would eventually lead to fights. (I’m summarizing.) And that for there to be no bad, there’d be no free will.
My response fell along the lines of that in Heaven we no longer have a desire to sin. That we would freely choose to do good. I also asked if, given a chance, if he would get rid of the bad parts of himself.
His answer was no, that they’re part of who he is.
At the time I didn’t have a good point on that matter to bring up, but if I ever wind up in a discussion like it again, I would like thoughts on an analogy I thought of afterwards.
Suppose I compared sin to a drug. Let us liken The Fall of Adam and Eve to a parent that takes a drug. They become addicted. There is an unhealthy attraction to this drug that’s passed on. Now a person may know a drug is wrong. They see its bad effects and know it’s harmful. They know it’s bad, but the addiction keeps drawing them to it or having a desire for it even if they refrain. In this analogy, they get to Heaven. The addiction is gone. The addiction to the harmful drug is gone. And not only is it gone, but they learn a lot more about what the drug does to a body. They truly understand now in ways they never did before just how terrible the drug is. And to top it all off, what they tried to fill with the drug, love, joy, is with them. Would this person ever want to take the drug?
So is that a decent analogy? Or are there gaping holes?