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ontheway1
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Is there any spirituality left in our Catholic church, or are we just singing songs, doing some wishful thinking, and being nice people?
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PennyinCanada
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This is what is happening in our church…
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People who are plugged into the power of God are a force in the world. It’s not wishful thinking, it’s the power of God. If you think it’s wishful thinking, the good news is that there’s a lot more going on than you think.
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People who are plugged into the power of God are a force in the world. It’s not wishful thinking, it’s the power of God. If you think it’s wishful thinking, the good news is that there’s a lot more going on than you think.
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krayzevuze
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we can not know what another individual is doing, we can only do what we can and God’s will. we should all seek to be divine love in the heart of the Church like St. Therese of Lisieux, and then we’ll know at least in one place there is spirituality:
When I had looked upon the mystical body of the Church, I recognised myself in none of the members which Saint Paul described, and what is more, I desired to distinguish myself more favorably within the whole body. Love appeared to me to be the hinge for my vocation. Indeed I knew that the Church had a body composed of various members, but in this body the necessary and more noble member was not lacking; I knew that the Church had a heart and that such a heart appeared to be aflame with love. I knew that one love drove the members of the Church to action, that if this love were extinguished, the Apostles would have proclaimed the Gospel no longer, the martyrs would have shed their blood no more. I saw and realized that love sets off the bounds of all vocations, that love is everything, that this same love embraces every time and every place. In one word, that love is everlasting.
Then, nearly ecstatic with the supreme joy in my soul, I proclaimed: O Jesus, my love, at last I have found my calling: my call is love. Certainly I have found my place in the Church, and You gave me that very place, my God. In the heart of the Church, my mother, I will be love, and thus I will be all things, as my desire finds its direction.
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When I had looked upon the mystical body of the Church, I recognised myself in none of the members which Saint Paul described, and what is more, I desired to distinguish myself more favorably within the whole body. Love appeared to me to be the hinge for my vocation. Indeed I knew that the Church had a body composed of various members, but in this body the necessary and more noble member was not lacking; I knew that the Church had a heart and that such a heart appeared to be aflame with love. I knew that one love drove the members of the Church to action, that if this love were extinguished, the Apostles would have proclaimed the Gospel no longer, the martyrs would have shed their blood no more. I saw and realized that love sets off the bounds of all vocations, that love is everything, that this same love embraces every time and every place. In one word, that love is everlasting.
Then, nearly ecstatic with the supreme joy in my soul, I proclaimed: O Jesus, my love, at last I have found my calling: my call is love. Certainly I have found my place in the Church, and You gave me that very place, my God. In the heart of the Church, my mother, I will be love, and thus I will be all things, as my desire finds its direction.
(quote from her)
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DebCWil
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It may be worthwhile to listen to Fr. Jonathan Meyer’s Easter homily. Although our church’s are locked because of the current pandemic, Christ is not confined any more now than He was confined in the sealed tomb.
He still has the power to work in our own hearts when we give Him permission to enter, as Mary answered with her Fiat and allowed Christ to enter her womb.
The Church is alive wherever God’s people spread the Gospel, with our lives empowered by the grace of the Holy Spirit given to us through the Sacraments of the Holy Church.
He still has the power to work in our own hearts when we give Him permission to enter, as Mary answered with her Fiat and allowed Christ to enter her womb.
The Church is alive wherever God’s people spread the Gospel, with our lives empowered by the grace of the Holy Spirit given to us through the Sacraments of the Holy Church.
Tis_Bearself
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All the Catholics I know spend a heck of a lot more time in prayer and reading Scripture than they do singing. Sometimes people complain because we don’t sing enough, to be honest.
At a time like this, when people are likely praying more than they normally do (the nightly Zoom rosary I keep bumping has between 1900 and 2400 households connecting to it every night), why would you think we don’t have spirituality in the Church? This question seems more like you would ask it when everything was going along great and people were leaving Mass early to go watch sports or have a picnic or something.
At a time like this, when people are likely praying more than they normally do (the nightly Zoom rosary I keep bumping has between 1900 and 2400 households connecting to it every night), why would you think we don’t have spirituality in the Church? This question seems more like you would ask it when everything was going along great and people were leaving Mass early to go watch sports or have a picnic or something.
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Dovekin
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Yes, the Holy Spirit fills our lungs to make a joyful noise to God, inspires us with hope and guides us to love our neighbor .Is there any spirituality left in our Catholic church, or are we just singing songs, doing some wishful thinking, and being nice people?
What else is there?
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DebCWil
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Even during a time when we are unable to participate in Mass in our home parishes, I like that Mass is available on-line.
Nothing like worship with an obviously Spirit filled priest, like the one who offered Mass this morning.
The word Mass comes from the final words of the Mass, of the blessing, when we are sent “to love and serve the Lord.” We are sent out. As Christ reminded His Apostles, as wonderful as it might be to spend our time on the mountain top, we are called to live in the world. We are called to come down the mountain, and return to the city, to the village, or wherever we live.
Today’s message was the unbelief of the Apostles to the witness of Mary Mageleine and the disciples on the road to Emmaus. Those who see us may not believe because they are absorbed in their own grief, in their own concerns. That doesn’t distract from the truth of the Resurrection, from the witness that the Church gives that those who are guided by the Holy Spirit to live the Gospel message.
Just as the tomb could not hold Christ, neither can it bind the Truth that the lives of who bear witness to that Truth live.
Nothing like worship with an obviously Spirit filled priest, like the one who offered Mass this morning.
The word Mass comes from the final words of the Mass, of the blessing, when we are sent “to love and serve the Lord.” We are sent out. As Christ reminded His Apostles, as wonderful as it might be to spend our time on the mountain top, we are called to live in the world. We are called to come down the mountain, and return to the city, to the village, or wherever we live.
Today’s message was the unbelief of the Apostles to the witness of Mary Mageleine and the disciples on the road to Emmaus. Those who see us may not believe because they are absorbed in their own grief, in their own concerns. That doesn’t distract from the truth of the Resurrection, from the witness that the Church gives that those who are guided by the Holy Spirit to live the Gospel message.
Just as the tomb could not hold Christ, neither can it bind the Truth that the lives of who bear witness to that Truth live.
But isn’t singing songs, doing wishful thinking, and being nice (which I always find much harder than it sounds) a powerful thing ? I suspect that redirecting our impulses in the right direction, which is what all that singing and thinking and being nice does, is slowly transforming us into a people better conformed to the image of God and better equipped to be his witnesses.
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Annie
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I don’t think this is what being Catholic is supposed to be about. Being Catholic is about having a relationship with God and with those around us.
Consider singing. If I were to sing a lullaby to myself as I drive, it would just be entertaining myself or something like that. But mothers singing lullabies to their babies is a totally different thing, don’t you think? It’s a communication and an expression of love.
In a similar way, Catholicism is not like wishing we lived in a movie but a combination of trusting God and working on our end of our friendship with Him. It is important to understand that we believe in the reality of God, He is not an imaginary friend.
And as to being nice, I think anyone can figure out that you catch more flies with honey… and not all Catholics are what most would call “nice,” some are rather curmudgeonly!
Consider singing. If I were to sing a lullaby to myself as I drive, it would just be entertaining myself or something like that. But mothers singing lullabies to their babies is a totally different thing, don’t you think? It’s a communication and an expression of love.
In a similar way, Catholicism is not like wishing we lived in a movie but a combination of trusting God and working on our end of our friendship with Him. It is important to understand that we believe in the reality of God, He is not an imaginary friend.
And as to being nice, I think anyone can figure out that you catch more flies with honey… and not all Catholics are what most would call “nice,” some are rather curmudgeonly!
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ontheway1
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Yes. This is good.Being Catholic is about having a relationship with God and with those around us.
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