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Can someone give me a bit of a list as to which sins are mortal? I find it hard to grasp what constitutes a mortal sin. I understand that they are intentional, but can someone list some for me? I don’t mean the obvious (killing, etc), more like “everyday” mortal sins if such things can exsist.
 
If you want practical guidance, don’t break the 10 commandmend. This is kinda practical.
 
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Bryan:
Can someone give me a bit of a list as to which sins are mortal? I find it hard to grasp what constitutes a mortal sin. I understand that they are intentional, but can someone list some for me? I don’t mean the obvious (killing, etc), more like “everyday” mortal sins if such things can exsist.
The Capital sins are:
Pride
Avarice
Envy
Wrath
Lust
Gluttony
Sloth

They are called "capital’ because they engender other sins, and vices. CCC 1867

Rather than attempting to list sins, it is probably more useful to learn to recognize them from a principaled perspective. Ponder the principles. Begin by looking at the Catechism discussion of sin. § 1852 et. seq.

Also learn the Ten Commandments. Read the Catechism sections on them and consider how they serve as general principles from which practical details are extracted.

Also, learn the virtues and consider that their opposites are sin.

The variety of sins are more numerous than the catalogue of all the crimes of humanity.
 
an i quoted “does sin not only damage our relationship with god but also deform our very souls? think about the first time a person commits a particular sin. take lying as an example. if a person has never told an untruth before and has been trained properly,telling a lie will be a very difficult experience.everything in that person’s chracter and conscience will revolt at this first lie. that is less true of the second lie. the third lie is even easier for this person. by the tenth lie, the connsciense and character of this person hardly flinch at sin. why? this change occurs because, not only does a sin offend god, it gradually destroys the person who sins”. thank you mr d. currie :blessyou:
 
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Bryan:
Can someone give me a bit of a list as to which sins are mortal? I find it hard to grasp what constitutes a mortal sin. I understand that they are intentional, but can someone list some for me? I don’t mean the obvious (killing, etc), more like “everyday” mortal sins if such things can exsist.
Mortal sin is intentional in the begining (out of free will in the begining), but after a while, they are not necessarily intentional anymore, and yet, still mortal.

To list mortal sin is not necessary. Each person is to measure by his conscience whether his sin is mortal :

Basicly God is a merciful God. He does not want to punish us. But certain sins are stronger than others. These sins condemns the sinner in their heart. (This is not about psychology, nor cognitive realm of the person, but rather spiritual realm).

If one sins, this sin will condemn him to death. This condemnation is also the very same condemnation that causes him to do the same sin over and over again. In other words : he commit sin causing his death, and his death causing his sin more and more until the ultimate death (where no hope can be found anymore). But when God has mercy on him : one will stop sinning. When it stops, then it is not mortal anymore. It is totally forgiven, and will not be remembered anymore

Mortal sin : sin that causes ones death. The ultimate mortal sin is : if one does not believe anymore that God can save him from death.

Easy clue of mortal sins:
  • it causes repeatation no matter how hard one has tried to stop it (uncontrollable).
  • it is very fruitful (example : drinking problem causing financial problem & family problem, drug problem causing theft & violence, worries causing depression and hopelessness)
  • it is usually has some degree of violence to self and/or others (not always physical violence : for example pornographic is very violent to our minds, so some extreme horror movies, bad words etc).
Regarding violent nature of mortal sin : swearings/ violent/ bad words could become the seed of many mortal sins, because our word is spirit. We oppose this by saying good words : praising God, claiming bible promises, peaceful hopeful optimistic words, God’s words.

May God bless you.
 
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francisca:
To list mortal sin is not necessary. Each person is to measure by his conscience whether his sin is mortal :
As I have said to you many times. We have an OBLIGATION to formed your conscience:

1783 Conscience must be informed and moral judgment enlightened. A well-formed conscience is upright and truthful. It formulates its judgments according to reason, in conformity with the true good willed by the wisdom of the Creator. The education of conscience is indispensable for human beings who are subjected to negative influences and tempted by sin to prefer their own judgment and to reject authoritative teachings.

1784 The education of the conscience is a lifelong task. From the earliest years, it awakens the child to the knowledge and practice of the interior law recognized by conscience. Prudent education teaches virtue; it prevents or cures fear, selfishness and pride, resentment arising from guilt, and feelings of complacency, born of human weakness and faults. The education of the conscience guarantees freedom and engenders peace of heart.

1785 In the formation of conscience the Word of God is the light for our path,54 we must assimilate it in faith and prayer and put it into practice. We must also examine our conscience before the Lord’s Cross. We are assisted by the gifts of the Holy Spirit, aided by the witness or advice of others and guided by the authoritative teaching of the Church.55

Now, read carefully so no one turn up like the lovable presidential candidate who happens to be Catholic, John F Kerry who agrees with abortion because his conscience says so

1790 A human being must always obey the certain judgment of his conscience. If he were deliberately to act against it, he would condemn himself. Yet it can happen that moral conscience remains in ignorance and makes erroneous judgments about acts to be performed or already committed.

Kerry and the likes would like to hold onto this paragraph and do evil things and justify it by saying that they don’t want their conscience condemned them.

Unfortunately for them:

1791 This ignorance can often be imputed to personal responsibility. This is the case when a man **“takes little trouble to find out what is true and good, or when conscience is by degrees almost blinded through the habit of committing sin.”**59 In such cases, **the person is culpable for the evil he commits.
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1792 Ignorance of Christ and his Gospel, bad example given by others, enslavement to one’s passions, assertion of a mistaken notion of autonomy of conscience, rejection of the Church’s authority and her teaching, lack of conversion and of charity: these can be at the source of errors of judgment in moral conduct.

1793 If - on the contrary -** the ignorance is invincible**, or the moral subject is not responsible for his erroneous judgment, the evil committed by the person cannot be imputed to him. It remains no less an evil, a privation, a disorder. One must therefore work to correct the errors of moral conscience.

1794 A good and pure conscience is enlightened by true faith, for charity proceeds at the same time "from a pure heart and a good conscience and sincere faith."60
The more a correct conscience prevails, the more do persons and groups turn aside from blind choice and try to be guided by objective standards of moral conduct.6
 
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beng:
As I have said to you many times. We have an OBLIGATION to formed your conscience:
Then may be you can give us a list : which sins are mortal and which are not? Thanks.
1783 Conscience must be informed and moral judgment enlightened. A well-formed conscience is upright and truthful.
A good conscience is if we believe that God loves me so much that He send His only Son not to condemn me but to save me.
By believing this, one’s conscience will be sharpened and it will know which are bad : because he understand Goodness.
You would know a fake diamond only if you have seen the real one! And you would not want the fake after you have seen the real thing. You will not want to sin again after you experience God. In fact, you will desire Him more and more each day.
Moreover, to the ones who believe, Jesus will reveal more so that they can believe Him more and more. But to the unbelieve, He hides Himself, so that they can never find Him, no matter how much technical knowledge they have, their conscience is still dull !
1794 A good and pure conscience is enlightened by true faith, for charity proceeds at the same time "from a pure heart and a good conscience and sincere faith
."60
The more a correct conscience prevails, the more do persons and groups turn aside from blind choice and try to be guided by objective standards of moral conduct.6

There it goes!

Acts 15:9
and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.

John 3
16 For God so loved the world that he gave 7 his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him might not perish but might have eternal life.
17 For God did NOT send his Son into the world to CONDEMN 8 the world, but that the world might be SAVED THROUGH HIM.
18 Whoever BELIEVES in him will NOT be condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

God bless.
 
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francisca:
Then may be you can give us a list : which sins are mortal and which are not? Thanks.
I have said so in my first post in this page
A good conscience is if we believe that God loves me so much that He send His only Son not to condemn me but to save me.
This is so vaque and not usable.

If you watch porn and then feel bad, do you want to shout out John 3:16 just to ease your conscience and everything is right? No, you have to repent and go to confession. Because His begotten son (per John 3:16) has instituted the sacrament of penance for the Church to help you.
By believing this, one’s conscience will be sharpened and it will know which are bad : because he understand Goodness.
You would know a fake diamond only if you have seen the real one! And you would not want the fake after you have seen the real thing. You will not want to sin again after you experience God. In fact, you will desire Him more and more each day.
Moreover, to the ones who believe, Jesus will reveal more so that they can believe Him more and more. But to the unbelieve, He hides Himself, so that they can never find Him, no matter how much technical knowledge they have, their conscience is still dull !
I hope you’re not saying that you never sin.

Btw, have you ever sin two weeks from now?
There it goes!
Acts 15:9
and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.
This is Peter’s talking how God also touch the gentile. Meaning that salvation is also offered to the Gentile.

Btw, are you still hellbound on that “faith alone”? Do you believe in faith alone? Do you still adore Luther? I thought I straightened it out how erroneous the doctrine of “faith alone” is and how devious Luther was?
John 3
16 For God so loved the world that he gave 7 his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him might not perish but might have eternal life.
17 For God did NOT send his Son into the world to CONDEMN 8 the world, but that the world might be SAVED THROUGH HIM.
18 Whoever BELIEVES in him will NOT be condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
God bless.
You shall condemn yourselves if you sin. And if you do not repent by confessing to priest or doing an act of perfect contrition (which is hard that is why Jesus instituted the sacrament of penance) then you would still be condemned by your sins.
 
Wow, ok guys, calm down. 🙂

Thanks for the replies and eventhough I was looking for examples, I suppose I understand what constitutes a mortal sin and that they can differ from individual to individual a small degree.

-Bryan
 
There is sin which is mortal …
1John 5:16

But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death."
Rev 21:8

…nor did they repent of their murders or their sorceries or their immorality or their thefts.
Rev. 9:21

Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor sexual perverts, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God.
1Cor. 6:9-10

Now the works of the flesh are plain: fornication, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger, selfishness, dissension, party spirit, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal. 5:19-21
 
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Bryan:
… more like “everyday” mortal sins if such things can exsist.
“… it is a mortal sin to miss Mass knowingly, but not if one has a sufficient reason (such as illness or the incapacity to get to a church)”

Forget Mass? Not a Mortal Sin
By Karl Keating

**Catechism of the Catholic Church

The Sunday obligation

2180 ** The precept of the Church specifies the law of the Lord more precisely: “On Sundays and other holy days of obligation the faithful are bound to participate in the Mass.”
 
Let’s look to the ancient kings.

Saul failed to kill Agag and took the finest sheep and oxen for a holocaust to the Lord (didn’t keep the Ban), for which he was never forgiven despite repentence and looses God’s favor.

David had Uriah killed, commited adultry, repents and there is not problem.

Solomon disobeys the Ban by marrying foreigners and constructs temples to foreign Gods for his wives. He is never forgiven but keeps his kingdom on account of his murder/adulterous father.

Moral is, some sins are not forgivable. Don’t break the ban, but don’t worry about murder and adultery. Obedience is the name of the game.

Adam
 
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beng:
I hope you’re not saying that you never sin.

Btw, have you ever sin two weeks from now?
I am free from my bad habits that years ago I could not get rid of.

And no, I can’t say that I have done something mortal within two weeks : I have been free FOR YEARS. But I keep vigilant and ask The Lord to keep me there. Yes I still do mistakes and sometimes has worries in my mind. But no worries can overcome me anymore. I live in a save place : that is in my Father’s hand (not that my worldly environment is like heaven on earth… far from it, yet I know my family and I are secure. We trust Him and in all things we praise Him).
Acts 15:9
and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.
This is Peter’s talking how God also touch the gentile. Meaning that salvation is also offered to the Gentile.
Are you saying you are a native Jew? We are all gentiles to a certain degree. And Peter was talking to us too. And notice that in that passage the Holy Spirit fell on them as soon as Peter mentioned “the forgiveness of sins”
Btw, are you still hellbound on that “faith alone”? Do you believe in faith alone? Do you still adore Luther? I thought I straightened it out how erroneous the doctrine of “faith alone” is and how devious Luther was?
I am heaven bound.

I insist that we hold on to the “Joint Declaration on Justification” with the Lutherans, because that joint declaration is seeking for Unity and The Truth.
You shall condemn yourselves if you sin. And if you do not repent by confessing to priest or doing an act of perfect contrition (which is hard that is why Jesus instituted the sacrament of penance) then you would still be condemned by your sins.
Many people repented when John the Baptist baptized them with water. But this is not enough. They were to be introduced to Jesus in order to be completely saved. And to know Jesus means to get rid of condemnation.

I am not against the sacrament of penance. Yet, I don’t think a condemnation can come with a sacrament. I disagree with a certain way of thinking about the sacrament : If that sacrament comes with a threat “if you do not do it then…”. This “then…” is a curse. The sacrament is to bestow grace, not to condemn those who fail to do it ( for they have been cursed by their own sins already, so let’s help them instead burden them the more). Let the people come because they believe, not because some law threaten them. Otherwise, that sacrament becomes a stumble stone : you are free because of your success in doing it, and you are damned because of your failure in doing it. This kind of thinking is nothing but a curse : those who fail to do it are cursed, and those who are successful, think that they are saved because of their own action apart from faith.

Our protestant brothers are more focus on faith. And this faith is the most important thing from our part in order to receive grace. For grace has been bestowed on us since Jesus said “It is finished” when He was about to die on the cross. Yet unbelieve is the obstacle from our part in order to receive that grace.

The people can believe again when we teach them the gospel. They will repent and start to believe again. And starting with this believe, they will come to the church with faith in Jesus in their hearts. They would desire the sacrament because of this faith, and not because of fear of rules.

1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love.

God bless.
 
Bryan – yoo hoo?

Mortal sins and any sins do not vary according to the individual. That is to say, sins are ‘absolute’ and anyone who commits them sins. It’s not as if I do something and it’s not a sin, but if you do it then it is a sin – doesn’t work that way.

Perhaps you meant that people are afflicted with different sorts of sins, which is true, because we have different opportunities and circumstances.

In fact, I don’t think an absolute listing exists. God does not want us to be legalistic, which is what you’re pressing for here.

God does not want formalism. He wants us to live from the heart of love that He forms in us. The Christian (follower of Christ) is one who has an “interior life” living in Christ and with Christ, who responds to the challenges on the basis of that interior life.

If you stick with reading your Bible and reading / studying the Catechism and pray for the gift of the Holy Spirit you may begin to develop that interior life and will recognize what pleases God and offends God. Looking for such a list is commendable, but there is something better, which I have outlined above.
 
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francisca:
I am free from my bad habits that years ago I could not get rid of.
Congratulations!
And no, I can’t say that I have done something mortal within two weeks : I have been free FOR YEARS. But I keep vigilant and ask The Lord to keep me there. Yes I still do mistakes and sometimes has worries in my mind. But no worries can overcome me anymore. I live in a save place : that is in my Father’s hand (not that my worldly environment is like heaven on earth… far from it, yet I know my family and I are secure. We trust Him and in all things we praise Him).
If this is true, then good.

Yet frequent confession is very advisable because it humbles you before God and give you the grace needed to persevered from temptations.
Are you saying you are a native Jew? We are all gentiles to a certain degree. And Peter was talking to us too. And notice that in that passage the Holy Spirit fell on them as soon as Peter mentioned “the forgiveness of sins”
Peter was making a point that God now include the gentiles in the salvation plan. Before this many Christian Jews objected to include gentiles into the Christian faith. They were still bound by Judaism.
I am heaven bound.
I insist that we hold on to the “Joint Declaration on Justification” with the Lutherans, because that joint declaration is seeking for Unity and The Truth.
Why are you insist on some Joint Declaration? Why?

It’s just a join declaration.

It only highlights the difference between Lutheran and us.

Response of the Catholic Church to the Joint Declaration of the Catholic Church and the Lutheran World Federation on the Doctrine of Justification

The above highlight the difficulties and differences of both.

There’s no way the Catholic Church will JOIN with some Protestant church. The only way is for Protestant to convert to the Catholic faith because they are in error.

You really need to read more Catholic books. And don’t think that Catholic don’t know the Bible. Protestant might loook like they know their bible by quoting irrelevance verses but the fact is, only the Catholic Church who is true to the Bible and the teaching of Christ. From every angle, the Protestant position is contradictive.

And, for your information, the doctrine of FAITH ALONE ie never in the gospel and never preach by any Church father. Why are myou falling into the same error? You are in the Catholic Church, the only ark of salvation. Do you know how great that is? Without the grace of God you will never be in the Holy Mother Church established by Jesus Christ since 33 AD.
Many people repented when John the Baptist baptized them with water. But this is not enough. They were to be introduced to Jesus in order to be completely saved. And to know Jesus means to get rid of condemnation.
John the Baptist’s baptism is baptism of repentance (look at the first question). It’s not Christian baptism. It’s not the same as baptism instituted by Christ.

Jesus shall get rid of condemnation, but you have to seek forgiveness, seek confessionn. If you’re proud enough and presumptious enough to not humble yourself and go to confession, which is our Lord gifts to us, thenyou have put your soul at risk. You can’t go aaround thiinking, “ah I believe in Jesus. I will never go to hell” That’s arrogant, presumptious and disobedience to what Jesus ordered.

To be continue
 
I am not against the sacrament of penance. Yet, I don’t think a condemnation can come with a sacrament. I disagree with a certain way of thinking about the sacrament : If that sacrament comes with a threat “if you do not do it then…”. This “then…” is a curse. The sacrament is to bestow grace, not to condemn those who fail to do it ( for they have been cursed by their own sins already, so let’s help them instead burden them the more). Let the people come because they believe, not because some law threaten them. Otherwise, that sacrament becomes a stumble stone : you are free because of your success in doing it, and you are damned because of your failure in doing it. This kind of thinking is nothing but a curse : those who fail to do it are cursed, and those who are successful, think that they are saved because of their own action apart from faith.
The sacrament is there to help you. It’s presumptious people who demonize the sacrament thinking that it’s a stumbling block.

The stumbling block is your sin, your arrogant, your presumption.

Sacraments is important, especially baptism. Baptism is not only a necessity of means, but also a necessity of precept. One must receive the sacramental grace of baptism in order to be included in the Kingdom of God. There are three kinds of Baptism, by water, blood and desire.

Sacraments are hear to help. If you do not get the help than it’s you who has condemned yourself.
Our protestant brothers are more focus on faith. And this faith is the most important thing from our part in order to receive grace. For grace has been bestowed on us since Jesus said “It is finished” when He was about to die on the cross. Yet unbelieve is the obstacle from our part in order to receive that grace.
HAHAHAHA

Sorry, but it’s laughable. Protestant does not focus on faith, they focus on intellectual assent. Why is that? Because they require people to say with their mouth the sinner prayer and accept Jesus as Lord and invite them into their heart.

That is salvation by intellectual assent. Their definition of faith is a deficient one. By their logic a retarded person, a crazy person and a baby can not have faith. Why? Because they can not believe Jesus as God and saviour intellectually.

Protestant is the one advocating salvation by work.

It’s only the Catholic understanding that is compatible with romans, Ephesians, James and the four gospels.

You have read too much “feel-good” Protestant book. You need to read more Catholic books. For people like you I suggest Scott Hahn. You would then be able to understand the beauty of the true Christian Faith as Jesus preached. Also get “Surprised by Truth” book by Patrick Madrid. Anyway here are some book recommendations:
  1. Lamb Supper Scott Hahn
  2. Hail Holy Queen - Scott Hahn
  3. Rome Sweet Home - Scott Hahn
  4. Surprised by Truth - Patrick Madrid (there are 3 series)
  5. Not By Faith Alone - Robert Sungenis
  6. Catholicism and Fundamentalism - Karl Keating
  7. Salvation Controvery - Jimmy Akin
Please, do read these books so you would know the beauty and true Christian faith as preach by the Fathers and the Saints. Yes they are all Catholics and not one of them are Protestant. None of them ever heard Sola Fide and would feel revolted by it.

to be continued
 
The people can believe again when we teach them the gospel. They will repent and start to believe again. And starting with this believe, they will come to the church with faith in Jesus in their hearts. They would desire the sacrament because of this faith, and not because of fear of rules.
Rules are made to guide people. Rule by itself is not bad. Again, what’s bad is sin, arrogancy and presumptious.
1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love.
God bless.

20:11-13
*11 And I saw a great white throne and one sitting upon it, from whose face the earth and heaven fled away: and there was no place found for them 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing in the presence of the throne. And the books were opened: and another book was opened, which was the book of life. And the dead were judged by those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead that were in it: and death and hell gave up their dead that were in them. And they were judged, every one according to their works.
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Agian, do read those books. Catholicism is full of faith, love and forgiving. Protestantism theology only gives you confussion and lead you to error.

There’s nothing more loving than the Catholic faith. The love of her mass, the embrace of her sacraments. It’s truly heaven
 
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