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severinus
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I visit snopes daily. The best thing about it is that it really reinforces critical thinking.
My favorite urban legend is that bunch of ‘connections’ between Lincoln and Kennedy, because so many people believe it:snopes.com/history/american/linckenn.htm
My favorite urban legend is that bunch of ‘connections’ between Lincoln and Kennedy, because so many people believe it:snopes.com/history/american/linckenn.htm
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David_Paul
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I don’t trust snopes. I was involved with one event they “debunk” and snopes is wrong in a very misleading way. Sure they do get a lot right but this event was attended by thousands. The principles numbered about 30–all of whom would say what I am saying about snopes. So just a caveat: there are several sites like snopes. Some are wrong more than they are correct (intentionally so for political reasons). Snopes is probably the best but not perfect.
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tee_eff_em
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snopes(and would be interested to know what David_Paul refers to?)
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David_Paul
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tee_eff_em…the May 1-2 1970 protests on the New Haven, CT green over the trial of Warren Kimbro, Bobby Seale and Erica Huggins.
This was a hot topic in certain areas of the net in the 1990s. Became tedious correcting Snopes account and never been to the site since. Snopes “debunked” the truth by a technicality .A lawyer was said to be involved but that person didn’t have a law degree at the time. But the law student still assisted in the defense and did help organize the rally. Snopes may have corrected it by now.
This was a hot topic in certain areas of the net in the 1990s. Became tedious correcting Snopes account and never been to the site since. Snopes “debunked” the truth by a technicality .A lawyer was said to be involved but that person didn’t have a law degree at the time. But the law student still assisted in the defense and did help organize the rally. Snopes may have corrected it by now.
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tee_eff_em
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Never heard of any of 'em, and snopes’s search engine doesn’t find them either. Maybe there was a page there (snopes is not available to the Internet Archive, so I can’t tell) but it is gone now?
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adstrinity
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I kinda have to side with David_Paul on this one. I like snopes & I’ll visit on occasion (especially if I get one of those “Re:Fwd:RE:FW:FW I don’t know if this is true but, it’s worth a shot. REALLY SPOOKY!!!” e-mails in my inbox), but, I’ve noted it has a leftest bias and once or twice I have seen the answer be a little more editorial than just factual.
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Lizzie
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David_Paul said:
This story has now disappeared from urban legends.
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David_Paul
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Yes. Snopes tried to cover up Hillary Clinton’s legal work for several Black Panthers on trial for torturing and then murdering a fellow Panther. Everytime that Paul Harvey story was mentioned in the 1990s, someone would quote Snopes to “prove” it was not true.
It was true. Hillary also helped organized the May Day protest and was a principle of a Yale student paper which depicted cops as drooling pigs.
History is history. And Hillary wasn’t near as radical as many at Yale Law. She was actually considered a moderate. The SDS people were the radicals.
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severinus
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David_Paul,
I wanted to post this link which refers to and confirms the story:
truthorfiction.com/rumors/h/hillarypanthers.htm
I wanted to post this link which refers to and confirms the story:
truthorfiction.com/rumors/h/hillarypanthers.htm
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David_Paul
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I don’t know why anyone tried to hide this stuff. Yale was radical in 1970 and the Yale Law school was in the vanguard.
Yale law students not being involved in the Panther trial would be like not wearing sideburns in the 1970s and not listening to disco. One can simply assume all were the case. Went to an organizing meeting at which William Sloan Coffin and Doctor Benjiman Spock spoke. Being on the side of Bobby Seale and Erica Huggins was the establishment (as it exist then) thing to do. Wasn’t cool to defend “the man”. Not cool at all.
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Lizzie
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The other ‘urban legend’ was that Hillary lawyered for a notorious commie lawyer in California. No, she didn’t work for him as a lawyer. This was urban legend’s excuse refutation. They forgot to tell us that she did an internship with him before she graduated.
Girls at Yale can be carried away. In some cases they admit their misssteps and move on. Others do not.
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David_Paul
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Exactly. They also use the dodge that Robert Treuhalf was not a member of the Communist Party USA. And he wasn’t. But his best friend, Albert Bernstein (father of Watergate reporter Carl) was. And Treuhalf worked for every Soviet front on the West Coast from the 1940s until his death.
Always thought it odd that Hillary worked on the Watergate committee which sought to impeach Nixon after she interned with the communist lawyer who was buddies with Carl Bernstein’s dad.
A small world?
There is another odd thing in this: Ed Meese personally busted Robert Treuhalf for occupying a building during a protest at Berkeley in the fall of 1964.
Now Meese is helping to get John Roberts confirmed. And Hillary is, again, on the other side.
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ElizabethJoy
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Last year, snopes adopted the mainstream media mantra, “the largely discredited Swift Boat Veterans For Truth” and published lies about that organization. 
This despite the fact that NOT ONE claim by the Swifties was ever “debunked” or disproven.
Many people sent Barbara Mikkelson documentation to support the Swifts’ side of the story and she ignored it, until at least as late as a couple of months after the election. I don’t know if she ever corrected the stories, because I just never bothered going back there.
You shouldn’t claim that your site is about debunking falsehoods if “truth” is relative.
This despite the fact that NOT ONE claim by the Swifties was ever “debunked” or disproven.
Many people sent Barbara Mikkelson documentation to support the Swifts’ side of the story and she ignored it, until at least as late as a couple of months after the election. I don’t know if she ever corrected the stories, because I just never bothered going back there.
You shouldn’t claim that your site is about debunking falsehoods if “truth” is relative.
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Lizzie
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Hillary said her husband’s impeachment was due to a conspiracy. What do the Nixons think about Hillary working to take down Nixon?
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David_Paul
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I had no idea Snopes had become a MoveOn.org mouthpiece. Good grief, what is the matter with the left? Do they really think they can rewrite history to that extent? We have hundreds of guys were who there with Kerry and know what happened. They all lied?Last year, snopes adopted the mainstream media mantra, “the largely discredited Swift Boat Veterans For Truth” and published lies about that organization.
This despite the fact that NOT ONE claim by the Swifties was ever “debunked” or disproven.
Many people sent Barbara Mikkelson documentation to support the Swifts’ side of the story and she ignored it, until at least as late as a couple of months after the election. I don’t know if she ever corrected the stories, because I just never bothered going back there.
You shouldn’t claim that your site is about debunking falsehoods if “truth” is relative.
This is Stalinesque.
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ALSO, there is something there where they talk out against Rush Limbaugh, saying he contradicted himself as to reasons HE didn’t join the military and, another story, I think in their Glurge Gallary about the story about Beethoven’s (or Mozart, I don’t remember) childhood isn’t completely true and it wouldn’t have been bad to abort Hitler…at least, that’s the impression I got after reading all of it.
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