So I go to a Bible study

  • Thread starter Thread starter Tanais
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
T

Tanais

Guest
the other night and found out while I was there that it was a Regnum Christi one. The name sounded familiar, I thought I might have heard it in conjunction with the controversy with the Legionaries of Christ. I didn’t ask because I know it was a sensitive topic and I judged it prudent to find out by others. So today I was asking around and discovered they are in fact connected with the Legionaries. Apparently as well, I know a few people who are in the organization I just never knew they were in it. Also, apparently my archbishop doesn’t like them very much, or so I am told. I shall have to do more research on that one.
I am concerned because I do not want to get mixed with a schismatic group. However I hear that they have the favor of the Pope, so I do not know. I just want to be obedient. But I did greatly enjoy the bible study.
So is there anyone with Information and help? Thanks!
 
Tanais,

I see you are in Houston. When you refer to the Archbishop, I assume you mean Archbishop Fiorenza? If you hear that he doesn’t like the Legionaires, take it with a grain of salt. He also doesn’t like the FSSP, the TLM, the Anglican Use parish, the Respect Life movement (he’s pro-life, mostly, he just doesn’t like the organization) etc. The diocese is fairly liberal, the most liberal one I’ve lived in, although since joining this forum, I see that there are many more liberal than G-H.

The Legionaires are a fully aproved apostolate of the Church. They have a thriving seminary in Rome. They are very much on the orthodox side of Catholicism. They have had some scandals recently. They are NOT in any way, schismatic. The Legionaires have been “banned” from at least one diocese but that is a diocese that welcomes lay homilists and pro abortion speakers at Mass, so I wouldn’t put a whole lot of stock in that. They haven’t been restricted in any way in our diocese that I know of. They also run a large elementary school north of town (in Spring, I think).

I have never seen their Bible school material but have looked at material for VBS that they put out. It seemed very good.
 
Tanais:::::::

I look at bible studies as a great way to get information but I never believe everything they say. You never know what the full background on the person giving the study. They could focus on one thing more than something else that would be more of a benefit to you. Also I am always sacred to read some of the material because who completely knows where it comes from? Just be careful and check out the author and publisher. I always take the info and check out their info against other books and opinions. SO If you like the bible study by all means go. Just make sure you supplement it with other info.

kmktexas::::

I don’t think that the archdiocese of Houston is fairly liberal at all. After reading around on these boards I can see that we are pretty conservative. Don’t beat Arch-Bishop Fiorenza down just because you don’t agree with everything he has done. There are probably good reasons why he doesn’t like some organizations. Could be the people running them, their themes or how the organization is run in general. I think I will give him the benefit of doubt on why he dislikes certain groups. You have to give the man some credit for leading a diocese as big and diverse as Houston-Galveston for as long as he has. By the way have you had the opportunity to meet the new Co-Arch Bishop? If not you should go hear him speak. I’ve heard him twice now and I know that he is going to be such a positive influence on the growth of our diocese.

God Bless
Beckers
 
40.png
beckers:
kmktexas::::

I don’t think that the archdiocese of Houston is fairly liberal at all. After reading around on these boards I can see that we are pretty conservative. Don’t beat Arch-Bishop Fiorenza down just because you don’t agree with everything he has done. There are probably good reasons why he doesn’t like some organizations. Could be the people running them, their themes or how the organization is run in general. I think I will give him the benefit of doubt on why he dislikes certain groups. You have to give the man some credit for leading a diocese as big and diverse as Houston-Galveston for as long as he has. By the way have you had the opportunity to meet the new Co-Arch Bishop? If not you should go hear him speak. I’ve heard him twice now and I know that he is going to be such a positive influence on the growth of our diocese.

God Bless
Beckers

Beckers, I am not “beating down” Archbishop Fiorenza. I have lived in the diocese for only 6 years. Previously I lived in diocese in Arizona, Michigan and New Jersey which were all much more conservative than G-H. The problem is less with the ArchBishop than with the parishes which are full of abuses and outright heresy. (at least on the far west-side, with just two solid parishes that I have visited so far.) As I said, my perception of liberal is relative to my own experience and these forums have really opened my eyes. Unfortunately, I have seen more bad than good out of the present composition of the chancery. I can’t even read the Catholic Herald anymore (yuck). One of the Auxillary Bishops is a real loose canon and having heard a few of the Permanent Deacons teach, I have real concerns about the formation program. My understanding is that the parishes that are more central in the diocese may have better experiences. We are about as far West as you can go, though, and it is not a pretty picture.

I realize that the Archbishop probably has good reasons for the feelings he has about conservative organizations in the diocese. I was rather disappointed (to put in mildly) with how he made his displeasure publically known. Some good people were publically embarassed.

I absolutely agree with your hopefullness regarding Co-adjuctor ArchBishop (too long of a title) DiNardo. I have not met him personally yet. We are currently expats in Venezuela but will be home soon (24 days) and I hope that I have the chance to meet him soon. Several friends have spoken to or corresponded with him and all were gushing. 🙂 I will be attending a fund raising dinner almost right when I get back. He was invited last year and unable to attend since it was just before his installation. With luck he will be there this year.
Click to expand...
 
I am involved with Regnum Christi. I have learned so much about my Catholic Faith and have gained a deeper love for Christ through this group. My children are involved in the affiliated youth organizations and have a much deeper faith and understanding than I ever did as a child. Please check out their Web site. Regnum Christi and the Legionnaries of Christ have been approved by the Holy Father.
Giannawannabe
 
Regnum Christi is an apostolic movement at the service of mankind and the Church. Founded by Fr. Marcial Maciel in 1949, the Regnum Christi movement includes lay men and women, as well as deacons and priests. It contributes to the spreading of Christ’s message to humanity by undertaking personal, organized apostolic activity.
At a weekly “encounter” or bible study, a group would do a Gospel reflection (usually the following Sunday’s Gospel). It would be discussed and the group would set apostolic goals for themselves for the week. Current events are discussed in relation to the Gospel.
Members are encouraged to seek regular Spiritual Direction and attend retreats.
Focus is to be on increasing your personal love for Christ and evangelization.

See:
legionofchirst.org/eng/regnum/rcinfo.htm for more info.
In Christ,
Giannawannabe
 
40.png
kmktexas:
Beckers, One of the Auxillary Bishops is a real loose canon and having heard a few of the Permanent Deacons teach, I have real concerns about the formation program.
Click to expand...
Loose Canon! Great pun! Check dictionary for Canon= a clergy person and cannon= a shooting device 👍 👍 👍
 
On January 31, 2005, the Pope sent a message to the priests of the Legionaries of Christ that were taking part of the general chapter that was being held in Rome. It was the occasion of the newly elected general director, Fr. Alvaro Corcuera Martinez, replacing Father Marcial Maciel Degollado, the founder of the Legionaries of Christ.

The information can be found on page 4 of the National Catholic Register, under the heading, “Pope to Legionaries:Stay Close to Your Founder.”

Here is the first paragraph of Pope JPll’s message:

“Dear brothers,
On the occasion of the third general chapter of your congregation, I am pleased to send my greetings especially to Father Marcial Maceil, your founder, as well as to Father Alvaro Corcuera, the newly elected general director of the Congregation of the Legionaries of Christ and of the Regnum Christi Movement. I also extend my greetings to the members of the general council and the other chapter fathers.”
 
On January 31, 2005, the Pope sent a message to the priests of the Legionaries of Christ that were taking part of the general chapter that was being held in Rome. It was the occasion of the newly elected general director, Fr. Alvaro Corcuera Martinez, replacing Father Marcial Maciel Degollado, the founder of the Legionaries of Christ.

The information can be found on page 4 of the National Catholic Register, under the heading, “Pope to Legionaries: Stay Close to Your Founder.”

Here is the first paragraph of Pope JPll’s message:

“Dear brothers,
On the occasion of the third general chapter of your congregation, I am pleased to send my greetings especially to Father Marcial Maceil, your founder, as well as to Father Alvaro Corcuera, the newly elected general director of the Congregation of the Legionaries of Christ and of the Regnum Christi Movement. I also extend my greetings to the members of the general council and the other chapter fathers.”
 
Sorry for the double posts. Could the moderators delete the first one? Thanks
 
40.png
Tanais:
the other night and found out while I was there that it was a Regnum Christi one. The name sounded familiar, I thought I might have heard it in conjunction with the controversy with the Legionaries of Christ. I didn’t ask because I know it was a sensitive topic and I judged it prudent to find out by others. So today I was asking around and discovered they are in fact connected with the Legionaries. Apparently as well, I know a few people who are in the organization I just never knew they were in it. Also, apparently my archbishop doesn’t like them very much, or so I am told. I shall have to do more research on that one.
I am concerned because I do not want to get mixed with a schismatic group. However I hear that they have the favor of the Pope, so I do not know. I just want to be obedient. But I did greatly enjoy the bible study.
So is there anyone with Information and help? Thanks!
Click to expand...
I’m sorry, Tanais, I didn’t see this post until today, or I would have responded sooner. I am not privy to the personal opinion of Archbishop Fiorenza, so I don’t know how he feels about the Legion. What I do think is very important, though, is the fact that he has given the Legion of Christ permission to live within the archdiocese and they do have a small community here. This may put your mind at ease somewhat as to their status within the archdiocese.
 
I know numerous very devoted Catholics involved with them. I think they definately fill a void for orthodox Catholic teachings. But I’m cautious about them. If all the orthodox Catholics go to them, that leaves everything else to the liberals!

I’ve found some to be rather rigid in their methods in matters that are beyond Church doctrine. (That’s not meant as a negative–just my experience.) And some really push their boarding “apostolic” schools for adolescent boys to train for the priesthood, which take the boys away from their families for a really long school year.

Many wonderful people are part of their group. But I hope they leave some wonderful people to help the rest of the groups within the Church!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top