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Theemonk
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How are they different from Franciscans and Carmelites for instance?
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So what are the distinguishing characteristics of the Augustinians?
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nunsuch
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These three are completely different. It is like asking: what is the difference between steak, oranges, and rye bread? Yes, all are foods but, apart from that…
Begin by doing some basic research on the internet. I note you also ask about the Missionaries of Charity. You need to search for communities that express a charism to which you are drawn. That requires both a lot of self-knowledge and awareness of the distinctions among them.
What you are really asking is for people to do your basic research for you. That’s very different from asking specific questions.
Begin by doing some basic research on the internet. I note you also ask about the Missionaries of Charity. You need to search for communities that express a charism to which you are drawn. That requires both a lot of self-knowledge and awareness of the distinctions among them.
What you are really asking is for people to do your basic research for you. That’s very different from asking specific questions.
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Theemonk
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Um no, I’m not asking for people to do the basic research for myself.
I’m asking this question because I know what the Franciscans and Carmelites are like but I can’t figure out what the Augustinians’ characteristics are based on what I’ve been reading. And I couldn’t find anything about the MSC daily rule of life either.
I’m asking this question because I know what the Franciscans and Carmelites are like but I can’t figure out what the Augustinians’ characteristics are based on what I’ve been reading. And I couldn’t find anything about the MSC daily rule of life either.
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AlbMagno
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https://forums.catholic-questions.org/t/what-are-the-charisms-of-the-jesuits-and-the-augustinians/518952/8?u=albmagno
I tried to share a topic in which I’ve asked this question, I hope it opens. The most complete answer is the one of @PapyrusDouay
Based on his answer and on my own research, I think what distingushes Agustinian Spirituality is:
I tried to share a topic in which I’ve asked this question, I hope it opens. The most complete answer is the one of @PapyrusDouay
Based on his answer and on my own research, I think what distingushes Agustinian Spirituality is:
- The importance of a strong community.
- A subtle focus on God’s Love (in contrast, for example, with a Dominican’s focus on Faith/Truth, or a Jesuit’s focus on discernment and mission).
- Prayer based in interiority and the interior search for the Holy Spirit (interiority is something that Saint Augustine remarks in his spirituality).
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nunsuch
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The horarium is secondary–and can change easily (and differs among particular congregations). As others, including @Theemonk has suggested, you should focus on charism, not on changeable incidentals. And there is plenty available on the charisms of particular orders.
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Cor_ad_Cor
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Charisms aren’t always easily and neatly distilled into a Wikipedia article (for example). You really need to dig deep into what makes them tick, so to speak, to understand it - and as @nunsuch says, things like daily routines are only signs that might point you in the right direction; then again, they might not help that much at all. Start with what’s important and critical to you, what drives you, and the specifics of what you believe. Then, it won’t matter what XYZ order has for descriptors if they’re not clearly aligned with you. If they are aligned, you’ll see it.
To illustrate my point, I was curious and “interested” in 3-4 different orders. Once I knew myself, the answer was so easy! None of those, but choice # 5 that I hadn’t even considered before! And once I started down the formal path with # 5, it still took the months of candidacy and meetings/spiritual direction, prayer, and study before I felt like I understood what they were all about and I could firmly say, “yes, this is for me.”
To illustrate my point, I was curious and “interested” in 3-4 different orders. Once I knew myself, the answer was so easy! None of those, but choice # 5 that I hadn’t even considered before! And once I started down the formal path with # 5, it still took the months of candidacy and meetings/spiritual direction, prayer, and study before I felt like I understood what they were all about and I could firmly say, “yes, this is for me.”
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Theemonk
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So what is the #5 choice?
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nunsuch
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It’s irrelevant to your search and spiritual journey, isn’t it?
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Cor_ad_Cor
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#5, as I said, was the right fit for me. The charism matched what was relevant for me (the philosophical fundamentals that drive the actions/ministries of the order). The practices weren’t immediately obvious attractions for me, but that’s because I was viewing them “from the street” as a passerby. Now that I know how the practices originated via the charism, they make sense, and I see the beauty in them enough to incorporate them into my own spiritual practice.
Without giving away too much personally identifiable information, I can give you an example (not of personal practice) that shows the influence I’m feebly attempting to describe. The processional cross used at the motherhouse Mass, to me, seemed …less than attractive because of its design. When I learned that it was fashioned from materials of significance and great symbolism to the history of the order and founder, that design was perfect!
Without giving away too much personally identifiable information, I can give you an example (not of personal practice) that shows the influence I’m feebly attempting to describe. The processional cross used at the motherhouse Mass, to me, seemed …less than attractive because of its design. When I learned that it was fashioned from materials of significance and great symbolism to the history of the order and founder, that design was perfect!
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