Sola Scriptura & the History Channel

[Wisdom]

Look at the madness one gets when you draw your history from anti-catholic reformation polemics (all catholics bad), and the History Channel (all catholic dogma politically motivated).
Anyways it sounds as if one evangelical musician has fell for such a theology of course of his own making.

Just one thing I have to ask after reading this what about Jesus promise to the church that the gates of hell will not prevail against the church is that not from scripture also? Alas this guy seems to tthink the gates of hell did prevail against the church as early as Nicea which brings his whole sola scriptura thing into a contradition of logic as this was before there was any sort of official canon by council that one could connect to as being the modern bible. I know one could get a lot of kicks about reading about the corruption of the midevil popes but there is much more to the storey than this simpleton has set forth and please his view of Nicea is nothing short of the Davinci Code. Also his book reading seems to be nothing other than pro-reformation polemics as he was hit with a ton of bricks when confronted that Luther was anti-semitic one of many of his personal faults but he coudl go on and on about the misbehavings of midevil popes. OF course that is not relevant to the matter but if were to do even a little research the reformers where also guilty of extra-marital affairs, of Inquisitions, or murderous wars, class-warfare, alowing for bigamy etc etc. Making his rantings on the behavior of catholics all the more one-sided the guy obviously did not do his homework. Add to that Luther’s testimony on his journey to Rome kept on changing through the years and his objective testimony is in serious doubt to historians today. Was there corruption yes? But the tall tale that the you could buy your way to heaven when you were in a state of sin has never been proved by anti-catholics though the charge has been oft repeated.

Solely Sola Scriptura?
By Stan Friedman
posted 04/23/07

Neal Morse made headlines when he left his critically acclaimed band, Spock’s Beard, after he had a religious conversion. His first solo album Testimony (2003) told the story of his journey to faith. Since then, he has explored theological themes through a series of concept albums. His latest, Sola Scriptura, tells the story of Luther’s stand against the Catholic Church. It has sold faster than any of his previous solo works, but also has drawn criticism for its portrayal of Catholicism. Morse’s rejection of the Trinitarian view of God also has raised questions about the orthodoxy of his beliefs. He says they’re based solely on his interpretation of Scripture (sola scriptura), but admits that his views on the Council of Nicaea were shaped in part by a special on The History Channel. We caught up with Morse recently to ask about these issues and more—including why he thinks prog rock is the best way to express his spiritual journey.

to read the rest…

christianitytoday.com/music/interviews/2007/nealmorse-0407.html

 

[PraRFLEsEkHm]

Hi

Yeah, unfortunately the History Channel is NOT faithful Journalism. They call the Eucharist a “symbolic Transfer of Power of Jesus to His Disciples” without giving an alternate (Catholic) view to things. I used to watch that channel a lot (before I converted) but now, although at times there is interesting things on there - like the Exodus story awhile back - mostly the commentators are biased to the Protestant slant, and worse - anything that is given by a Catholic Priest or Professor is either chopped to pieces (edited to the point it is unintelligible what the guy was commenting on) or VERY liberal. I am very disappointed with the History Channel, and was seriously considering calling for a boycot of it by Faithful Catholics.

:banghead: :knight1:

 

[Wisdom]

Hi

Yeah, unfortunately the History Channel is NOT faithful Journalism. They call the Eucharist a “symbolic Transfer of Power of Jesus to His Disciples” without giving an alternate (Catholic) view to things. I used to watch that channel a lot (before I converted) but now, although at times there is interesting things on there - like the Exodus story awhile back - mostly the commentators are biased to the Protestant slant, and worse - anything that is given by a Catholic Priest or Professor is either chopped to pieces (edited to the point it is unintelligible what the guy was commenting on) or VERY liberal. I am very disappointed with the History Channel, and was seriously considering calling for a boycot of it by Faithful Catholics.

:banghead: :knight1:

What is so unfortuante is that the guillible and those ignorant of authentic christian history will fall for this hook line and sinker and thus embrace heresey the church took centuries to conquier only to have the history channel undo it in 1-2 hours. Imagine this guy changed his entire trinitarian theology by watching a 1-2 hour special on the history channel. I mean come one guy where is your research use our brain and not the remote to discover the truths of theology. I hope he doesn’t watch the Davinci Code he will then embrace gnosticsim hook line and sinker and start writing songs about that too.

 

[Montgomeryatty]

I largely agree, and have in the past bemoaned certain History Channel productions as uninformed and/or possibly willfully disingenuous. Nonetheless, I must give them credit for their airing, just prior to Easter, at least two productions by Paulist Productions, namely a special on Peter: Keeper of the Keys, with copious commentary by the irreplaceable Steve Ray, and they also aired a work on Paul. Paulist is a faithful Catholic group, and although I only saw snippets (burned them to DVD for later viewing), it seems that they ran these pieces without splicing in Protestant scholars to say that the Catholic position is “one of many viewpoints to be considered,” or the occasional Ivy League professor who teaches religion whose commentary usually boils down to saying that the Christian position “is one of many viewpoints to be considered.”

 

[Wisdom]

I largely agree, and have in the past bemoaned certain History Channel productions as uninformed and/or possibly willfully disingenuous. Nonetheless, I must give them credit for their airing, just prior to Easter, at least two productions by Paulist Productions, namely a special on Peter: Keeper of the Keys, with copious commentary by the irreplaceable Steve Ray, and they also aired a work on Paul. Paulist is a faithful Catholic group, and although I only saw snippets (burned them to DVD for later viewing), it seems that they ran these pieces without splicing in Protestant scholars to say that the Catholic position is “one of many viewpoints to be considered,” or the occasional Ivy League professor who teaches religion whose commentary usually boils down to saying that the Christian position “is one of many viewpoints to be considered.”

Yeah I caught the special on Peter with Steve Ray very nice. But these are the exceptions not the rule the specials produced by the History Channel themselves tend to go down the conspiracy and liberal protestant route and the results are pretty ugly. So you have to be extremly discerning when viewing the history channel as I would easily say the majority of stuff is problematic which concerns Catholic Church history. But yeah I would recommend the special on the apostle Peter as its faithful to the catholic understanding of the first leader of the apostolic church.