Something I haven't seen here about LDS

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I’ve been lurking around reading this board for a while but have never seen what I’m inquiring about. When I was in high school, my very best friend was LDS. I was used to seeing the rows and rows of canned food in her basement that was supposed to be for the family to use when the end of the world came. However, I will never forget how she couldn’t come to my house for two or three Saturdays because she and her women’s group from the local LDS church were going to the shooting range to learn how to use a gun. We (the non-LDS friends, which included a Methodist, CoC, and non-denoms) were shocked to learn that Mormon women were required to learn how to shoot a gun because when the end of the world came, they had to be able to protect their food supply! I couldn’t believe it. I asked her to tell me more and she stated that even if her own mother had come to the door but was no longer LDS, they would be ordered to shoot to make sure the food supply was protected. Has anyone else heard anything about this? LDS members that visit here - is this a common practice?
 
I’m not sure if this urban legend, “congregational doctrine” or just nutty people. No, Mormon women are not required to learn to shoot. Family preparedeness is often taught but this is more along the lines of having a years food supply, get out of debt, learn to plant a garden and know first aid. Being able to do simple fix-it tasks is also taught. Sharing with others is still required. (although it is family first, church second and then everyone else in most LDS minds). So to answer your question…No this is NOT a common practice.
 
Well thank you for that answer. Maybe it was something in her congregation. Her father is a prominent theologian at a local college and has written several books about Mormonism but maybe he’s on the extreme end of it. It was just very strange!
 
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RHisComingHome:
Well thank you for that answer. Maybe it was something in her congregation. Her father is a prominent theologian at a local college and has written several books about Mormonism but maybe he’s on the extreme end of it. It was just very strange!
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Extreme? Like the snake handlers in North Alabama? Like the radical Islamists? Like the radical Fundamentalists that believe we ought to go another Crusade against the Muslims? LIke the Branch Davidians?

Extremists? I see Extreme people, they’re everywhere, they walk around like everyone else…they don’t even know that they’re extreme…sigh…

I have a fundamentalist brother that believes we should wipe Muslims off the face of the earth, I believe his idealogy is “do it to them before they do it to us” so sad…sigh…and my other brother is a Church of God bishop…sigh…

There are some days that I think out loud “Calgon, take me away”…
 
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RHisComingHome:
Well thank you for that answer. Maybe it was something in her congregation. Her father is a prominent theologian at a local college and has written several books about Mormonism but maybe he’s on the extreme end of it. It was just very strange!
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When I married my LDS wife, I was told all of our girls have shot a 22. I more or less attributed this to the fact that we are conservative, pro-gun Republican types

Hmmm…I believe most mormons fall into this category:hmmm:

Honestly, I attribute this as more of a conservative thing than a religious thing.
 
When I lived in Utah we called those basement storage areas “Mormon Holes”. Our house had a huge Mormon Hole too - filled with wine and such.

I never heard of a requirement to learn to shoot for LDS women. I do know that if you left the church you were unwelcome from then out, so, you would not share in family supplies saved for the end times.:whacky:

My daughter asked me why we didn’t save food like ALL our neighbors? I simply said, “I’m a former MARINE, we have guns, and we stock lots of ammo. I can get whatever I need with that.”:rolleyes: OK, I was Protestant at the time so give me a break!😉

Anyway, why save food for later when we have starving people today? What a waste all those ‘hords’ of food are when we could give it to those who need it.

This LDS example is just another example of the Rature and Tribulation hoax the Protestants invented in the 1830’s and spread like a bad rash.
 
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Malachi4U:
This LDS example is just another example of the Rature and Tribulation hoax the Protestants invented in the 1830’s and spread like a bad rash.
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AMEN BRUDDER, SPEAK DA TRUTH!
 
A Mormon woman told me it was to enable them to survive until an LDS rescue team could reach them, hopefully before the year’s end.
 
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Malachi4U:
Anyway, why save food for later when we have starving people today? What a waste all those ‘hords’ of food are when we could give it to those who need it.

This LDS example is just another example of the Rature and Tribulation hoax the Protestants invented in the 1830’s and spread like a bad rash.
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One of the things Mormons do with their stored food is give it away to people in need. As with Hurricane Katrina and similar disasters. Remember that even MRE’s and similar long-term prepackaged foods have a use-by date on them. One doesn’t want the stuff to be five days away from it’s expiration date when a crisis hits. Botulism is likely to complicate whatever the crisis might be that necessitates using one’s stash of food. Generally, it is advised that stored food be consumed and replaced when it is about six months away from it’s expiration date. Many Mormons camp out a lot just to get used to using their stored food products (some take a little getting used to, and some are just simply unpalateable to anyone who isn’t five minutes away from death by starvation). This is also a good way to use up some of the older food stores so they can be replaced with new stuff. But since NO ONE goes camping for six months solid–a lot of stored canned goods and such get donated to the boy Scouts or other charities.

And the one-year food supply is not used ONLY in case of ‘rapture’, which Mormons don’t believe in anyhow. Mormons are also encouraged to put away financial resources–six month’s worth of expenses, house payments and so forth, is advised where possible. Usually these are put away in interest-bearing, easily-liquidated accounts or investments–NOT buried in a hole or stuffed in a mattress, in case someone thought otherwise. All of these stored resources are to be used in case of personal economic calamity. As in: if someone loses a good job, the chief breadwinner dies or becomes seriously ill and unable to work, etcetera. When one has a year’s worth of stored food and six months worth of stashed cash, one has a lot of luxury to really devote energy to solving whatever might be causing the personal crisis. And if these resources get used up before the problems get solved, there are various LDS resources such as the Bishop’s Storehouse and LDS Family Services to help one along. This is one area where Catholics and Protestants could learn from Mormonism, IMHO.

But no, women are not specifically encouraged to learn to shoot to defend the family’s hoard of food.
 
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One of the things Mormons do with their stored food is give it away to people in need. As with Hurricane Katrina and similar disasters. Remember that even MRE’s and similar long-term prepackaged foods have a use-by date on them. One doesn’t want the stuff to be five days away from it’s expiration date when a crisis hits. Botulism is likely to complicate whatever the crisis might be that necessitates using one’s stash of food. Generally, it is advised that stored food be consumed and replaced when it is about six months away from it’s expiration date. Many Mormons camp out a lot just to get used to using their stored food products (some take a little getting used to, and some are just simply unpalateable to anyone who isn’t five minutes away from death by starvation). This is also a good way to use up some of the older food stores so they can be replaced with new stuff. But since NO ONE goes camping for six months solid–a lot of stored canned goods and such get donated to the boy Scouts or other charities.

And the one-year food supply is not used ONLY in case of ‘rapture’, which Mormons don’t believe in anyhow. Mormons are also encouraged to put away financial resources–six month’s worth of expenses, house payments and so forth, is advised where possible. Usually these are put away in interest-bearing, easily-liquidated accounts or investments–NOT buried in a hole or stuffed in a mattress, in case someone thought otherwise. All of these stored resources are to be used in case of personal economic calamity. As in: if someone loses a good job, the chief breadwinner dies or becomes seriously ill and unable to work, etcetera. When one has a year’s worth of stored food and six months worth of stashed cash, one has a lot of luxury to really devote energy to solving whatever might be causing the personal crisis. And if these resources get used up before the problems get solved, there are various LDS resources such as the Bishop’s Storehouse and LDS Family Services to help one along. This is one area where Catholics and Protestants could learn from Mormonism, IMHO.

But no, women are not specifically encouraged to learn to shoot to defend the family’s hoard of food.
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Thank you flame for your intelligent replies.

amgid
 
Horrible conspiracy or not, nobody has really answered why Mormons have all the food stored up. That ain’t a hoax. Every Mormon I have known, a bunch, have the rations. What’s up?
 
Truthfully, they just are big on family “preparedness”. No real earth shaking agenda on this specific subject. They just believe they can do more good for themselves and others if they are well prepared for whatever happens in life. Natural disasters, loss of employment, catastrophic injury/illness, all are taught in LDS churches as things one should be prepared for. Thus they are big on education as well. I don’t see any of this as a “bad thing” and those who have read any of my posts know that I am the farthest thing from a Mormon apologist. I just don’t think there is anything on this subject that is deserving of criticism.
 
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Pjs2ejs:
Horrible conspiracy or not, nobody has really answered why Mormons have all the food stored up. That ain’t a hoax. Every Mormon I have known, a bunch, have the rations. What’s up?
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I believe the simple answer is that they have been given a directive by their prophet to have a food storage. I believe flamesburn has already answered the question of what they would use the food storage for.

IMO, the positives for having a food storage, having money set aside and being prepared for any disaster is simple common sense. Mormons have simply been given a directive in common sense.
 
Believe it or not but even our beloved FEMA recommends that people store away food, water, and other emergency supplies. See the following:

fema.gov/rrr/foodwtr.shtm

Many family financial advisors recommend having between three months and six months’ expenses put away in some readily-liquidated form. Dave Ramsey is one such person but there are many who share his views.

daveramsey.com/etc/cms/index.cfm?intContentID=2867

So Mormons aren’t just wild-eyed nuts when they make recommendations of this sort. The Adventists also recommend steps along these lines though they are less militant and vocal about it all.
 
When I started this thread I wasn’t meaning to harp on the fact that the Mormons have food storage. My concern was not in this survival mode, but rather that my friend was taught to shoot a gun at age 16 to PROTECT her food storage. That was my question. No reason to debate the reason for keeping a food supply at all. If I had the room, I would do something like that too.
 
I learned to shoot at gun at age 12 but that was in the Boy Scouts.
 
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