Song at the Center?

[EphelDuath]

That’s really interesting. Where did you get this information?
I’m familiar with the Renaissance “L’homme Arme”, but that can’t be what you are referring to.
Can you provide a reference?

Written by St. Thomas Aquinas (1225-1274) for the Solemnity of Corpus Christi, this hymn is considered the most beautiful of Aquinas’ hymns and one of the great seven hymns of the Church. The rhythm of the Pange Lingua is said to have come down from a marching song of Caesar’s Legions: “Ecce, Caesar nunc triumphat qui subegit Gallias.”

preces-latinae.org/thesaurus/Hymni/Pange.html

 

[Beryllos]

Berrylos-What do you think of these lyrics?

** Most high, all powerful, all good Lord! All praise is yours, all glory, all honor, and all blessing …**

I have no experience as a songwriter or producer, nor qualifications as a music critic. but I would say you have definitely put God first in this song, which is a great improvement. Give thanks and praise to God!

My opinion?

I think “tree huggers” are in good company.

I certainly agree. Sorry if I offended.

 

[opus101]

preces-latinae.org/thesaurus/Hymni/Pange.html

Thanks, EphelDuath, that’s really interesting!

But it says that the “rhythm” is believed to come from the marching tune, not the chant as a whole (melody being the primary aspect).

Also, I’m wondering which melody for Pange Lingua is being referred to…the familiar ancient chant (youtube.com/watch?v=QmW5pD9Qdvc), or the one that is even more familiar to most Catholics: the hymn-style “Down in adoration falling”(youtube.com/watch?v=n4f7cGKQRRc). The latter could be altered enough, as far as tempo is concerned, to resemble a march, but the actual Gregorian chant example wouldn’t be able to fit that description.

 

[PJM]

=LouisvilleRC;11277647]giamusic.com/searchPDFS/G3989.pdf

So this was my song at the offering on Sunday. The song is fine but what worries me are the lyrics. Brother wind, sister water, mother earth, and father sky? I’m no traditionalist but are these lyrics O.K. in a song at a Eucharistic Celebration.

NO!

 

[Beryllos]

Haugen is the perpetrator of what we charitably call “The Massive Cremation”. I hope and pray that the next English revision of the Missal comes with a stamp that reads “Haugen-Haas strictly prohibited”. (We call that Haagen-Dazs and I’m on a diet here.)

That’s charitable? & there’s no need for name calling.

 

[Elizium23]

It’s as charitable as I can get when it comes to this kind of music.

Further reading: Heretical Hymns, by George Weigel.

 

[TerryJT]

I have no experience as a songwriter or producer, nor qualifications as a music critic. but I would say you have definitely put God first in this song, which is a great improvement. Give thanks and praise to God!

Hi Berrylos-I am glad you think that-however…the lyrics are not mine, but belong to St. Francis.

Beautiful aren’t they?

Have a blessed evening.

 

[Beryllos]

It’s as charitable as I can get when it comes to this kind of music.

No, I think you can do better. Mockery and name-calling like “Massive Cremation” and “Haagen-Dazs” do not further the cause. A dignified approach works better.

Further reading: Heretical Hymns, by George Weigel.

Thanks for that informative article.

 

[Phemie]

Hi Berrylos-I am glad you think that-however…the lyrics are not mine, but belong to St. Francis.

Beautiful aren’t they?

Have a blessed evening.

Compare those lyrics to Haugen’s “Canticle of the Sun” where we sing " Praise for the wind that blows through the trees, the seas’ mighty storms, the gentlest breeze; they blow where they will, they blow where they please to please the Lord!"

In the CBW III we don’t even praise the Lord, we actually sing “Praise** to** the wind/the fire/the sun, etc.”, I gag each time the choir chooses this hymn. I don’t know if this is a typo or a deliberate change of lyrics by those who compiled the CBW III.

 

[Enim]

Ugh. Censoring myself for very uncharitable thoughts about music

I second.