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[LightBound]

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[ToeInTheWater]

catholicweekly.com.au/simcha-fisher-catholics-stop-being-so-weird-about-women/

“It’s a little too easy for Catholic misogynists to find ammunition among the saints and Church Fathers who took the specific approach, defining a women’s worth according to how docile, tender, or amiable she is, how many children she bears, how many men she leads to perdition, or how many inches of clavicle she reveals.”

I’ve read these sentiments on CAF in the past couple of weeks.

Well, I certainly have myself but I think most of the frankly misogynistic posters aren’t even claiming that what they are stating is Catholic teaching, most are secular red pill/MRA types.

I’ve also noticed that the people who are very into traditional gender roles also assume all MEN fit into some standard mold. This is also quite limiting.

ETA: URL works fine for me. Hopefully it does for others, though I guess now that the OP changed the topic few people are going to read this.

 

[LightBound]

Well, I certainly have myself but I think most of the frankly misogynistic posters aren’t even claiming that what they are stating is Catholic teaching, most are secular red pill/MRA types.

I’ve also noticed that the people who are very into traditional gender roles also assume all MEN fit into some standard mold. This is also quite limiting.

ETA: URL works fine for me. Hopefully it does for others, though I guess now that the OP changed the topic few people are going to read this.

I will repost since it is working. Thank you for calling that to my attention.

 

[Bridgit_Andrews]

That was an interesting read. Thanks for posting it.

I’ve always had some sort of issue about how the Church views women. A couple years ago I went to a Catholic woman’s conference and by the time I left I just wanted to shout to everyone I met that “I am more than my uterus.”

Add to the fact that my husband does not want me to obey him. He wants a life partner, not a second class citizen or a child-wife to blindly obey his dictates for fear of “punishment”.

Peace,
B

 

[LightBound]

That was an interesting read. Thanks for posting it.

I’ve always had some sort of issue about how the Church views women. A couple years ago I went to a Catholic woman’s conference and by the time I left I just wanted to shout to everyone I met that “I am more than my uterus.”

Add to the fact that my husband does not want me to obey him. He wants a life partner, not a second class citizen or a child-wife to blindly obey his dictates for fear of “punishment”.

Peace,
B

I’ve reposted it with the original thread title and link. Would you please repost your reply on that to keep the conversation going?

 

[adamhovey1988]

That was an interesting read. Thanks for posting it.

I’ve always had some sort of issue about how the Church views women. A couple years ago I went to a Catholic woman’s conference and by the time I left I just wanted to shout to everyone I met that “I am more than my uterus.”

Add to the fact that my husband does not want me to obey him. He wants a life partner, not a second class citizen or a child-wife to blindly obey his dictates for fear of “punishment”.

Peace,
B

No Catholic on Earth believes that you are just a uterus and Church teaching is not that. I think that if Catholics hated women then we wouldn’t hold the Virgin Mary in high esteem would we?

 

[adamhovey1988]

Well, I certainly have myself but I think most of the frankly misogynistic posters aren’t even claiming that what they are stating is Catholic teaching, most are secular red pill/MRA types.

I’ve also noticed that the people who are very into traditional gender roles also assume all MEN fit into some standard mold. This is also quite limiting.

ETA: URL works fine for me. Hopefully it does for others, though I guess now that the OP changed the topic few people are going to read this.

I personally think misogyny and feminism are two sides of the same coin the only difference is who’s proponents it is. A coin will have two faces on each side but it’s still the same coin.

 

[LightBound]

No Catholic on Earth believes that you are just a uterus and Church teaching is not that. I think that if Catholics hated women then we wouldn’t hold the Virgin Mary in high esteem would we?

I’ve got a new corrected thread going here: forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=14518160&postcount=1

Adam, you’d be surprised at what one hears from certain speakers at women’s conferences. So much emphasis is placed on motherhood that women who cannot have children or that are single are left feeling like Bridgit did. That’s one of the reasons I posted this article…to let others know what many of us ladies experience from our fellow, well-intended Catholics.

 

[Bridgit_Andrews]

No Catholic on Earth believes that you are just a uterus and Church teaching is not that. I think that if Catholics hated women then we wouldn’t hold the Virgin Mary in high esteem would we?

You are comparing two different things. It is one thing to hold a strong courageous woman such as the BVM in high esteem and quite another to spend a weekend hearing about how one’s worth as a woman is tied to how many children, biological or spiritual, one has.

 

[Bridgit_Andrews]

I’ve reposted it with the original thread title and link. Would you please repost your reply on that to keep the conversation going?

Certainly