Specific example of temporal punishment in NT?

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I know that the story of David in the OT is often used to convey the concept that there is still punishment after we are forgiven (David was forgiven but his son still died as punishment for his affair).

Can anyone help me identify a specific example of this type in the NT? I’m familiar with other passages that relate to purgatory (a man’s work will be tested by fire, won’t be set free until you repay the last penny, etc.) but are there examples as explicit as in the OT of God’s punishment *after *forgiveness?
 
When Jesus speaks to Ananias concerning St. Paul, Jesus seems to link St. Paul’s future sufferings for the sake of Jesus’ name to St. Paul’s past evil acts:
13But Anani’as answered, “Lord, I have heard from many about this man, how much evil he has done to thy saints at Jerusalem; 14and here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call upon thy name.” 15But the Lord said to him, “Go, for he is a chosen instrument of mine to carry my name before the Gentiles and kings and the sons of Israel; 16for I will show him how much he must suffer for the sake of my name.” (Acts 9:13-16)
 
This may help too:

Col. 1:24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ, in my flesh, for his body, which is the church:
 
The concept of temporal punishment includes the idea of trying to make up for past sins. This theme appears in the story of Zacchaeus:5And when Jesus came to the place, he looked up and said to him, “Zacchae’us, make haste and come down; for I must stay at your house today.” 6So he made haste and came down, and received him joyfully. 7And when they saw it they all murmured, “He has gone in to be the guest of a man who is a sinner.” 8And Zacchae’us stood and said to the Lord, “Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have defrauded any one of anything, I restore it fourfold.” 9And Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house, since he also is a son of Abraham. (Luke 19:5-9)
 
Jesus’ command to the man from whom he cast out the legion of demons to go home and declare how much God had done for him might be considered a kind of temporal punishment:38The man from whom the demons had gone begged that he might be with him; but he sent him away, saying, 39"Return to your home, and declare how much God has done for you." And he went away, proclaiming throughout the whole city how much Jesus had done for him. (Luke 8:38-39)
 
Thanks Todd. These help.

It doesn’t seem to be as explicit as in the OT though.
I’m trying to answer the argument of ‘*’…that pertained to the OT, not the NT. Jesus’ death did away with the need for us to be punished or disciplined for what we’ve done wrong’.
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how about this scripture:
Heb.12:6 For the Lord disciplines him whom he loves and chastises every son whom he receives.
 
Remember Jesus said He came not to overrule the teachings of the OT but to fulfill them. The lessons in the OT are very applicable.
 
1 Corinthians 11

28] Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup.
29] For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself.
30] **That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died. **
 
I always thought 1 Cor 11 was a statement about the need to be totally pure, in God’s Grace, and not in mortal sin before you took the Holy Eucharist.
 
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Elzee:
Thanks Todd. These help.

It doesn’t seem to be as explicit as in the OT though.
I’m trying to answer the argument of ‘*’…that pertained to the OT, not the NT. Jesus’ death did away with the need for us to be punished or disciplined for what we’ve done wrong’.
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What is their justification for this “change”? Does this mean that God is “cool” with sin now? Does sin even matter anymore?

Peace,
javelin
 
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javelin:
What is their justification for this “change”? Does this mean that God is “cool” with sin now? Does sin even matter anymore?

Peace,
javelin
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Same alternative belief we’ve heard quite a bit…if we sin, we repent (tell God we’re sorry) and our sins are forgiven with no punishment because Jesus took our punishment for us on the cross. God punished in the OT because Jesus hadn’t yet come to save us.
Actually this person is OSAS so even if there is no repentance sins are forgiven once you’ve accepted Jesus- -but if you’re truly saved you’ll want to tell God you’re sorry. I don’t want to get into a OSAS discussion here because it could easily evolve into that…in regard to the thread…
The OT is very clear on God’s discipline even after forgiveness - the passages above are helpful, but not quite as explicit as God telling David he’s still going to lose his son, for example.
 
It seems that the Christian converts at Ephesus tried to make up for their past sins by burning their books on the magical arts, a loss (temporal punishment) to them worth some fifty thousand pieces of silver.

18Many also of those who were now believers came, confessing and divulging their practices. 19And a number of those who practiced magic arts brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all; and they counted the value of them and found it came to fifty thousand pieces of silver. (Acts 19:18-19)
 
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I always thought 1 Cor 11 was a statement about the need to be totally pure, in God’s Grace, and not in mortal sin before you took the Holy Eucharist.
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See verse 30. The consequences of such are clear. It is a form of temporal punishment for profaning the Holy Eucharist.
 
This is more about penance but that’s kind of related to temporal punishment:

James 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners: and purify your hearts, ye double minded. 9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned into mourning, and your joy into sorrow. 10 Be humbled in the sight of the Lord, and he will exalt you.
 
I think porthos’ example of the Eucharist is fairly explicit. People had become sick because they were not showing the proper respect for it. Some even died.

They abused communion; therefore, they got sick and some died.
 
Paul’s letters to the Corinthians are to a community of forgiven, baptized Christians (“born-again believers” to Protestants).

How do we know? Just listen to Paul’s greeting in the first letter:

“To the Church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus…”

“All” of their sins have been forgiven. All of their **past **sins, that is. (2 Peter 1:9—“whoever is…shortsighted…has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.”)

Now these forgiven, born again, sanctified-in-Christ Jesus Christians have one from among them that has sinned **after **he has been forgiven/born again and become a Christian.

1 Cor 5*—“It is actually reported that there is immorality among you…let him who has done this be removed from among you.”…“You are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.”*

Paul follows up in 2 Cor 2:5*—"For such a one this **punishment *by the majority is enough;…"

Notice that Paul did **not **say, “Hey, sinner, you’ve been forgiven of all your sins–past, present, and future! Christ suffered punishment **for **you, so you don’t have to do anything but stop sinning!”

Instead he said to the forgiven, born-again, sanctified Church in Corinth to: *“When you are assembled, and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan,…” *1 Cor 5:4,5

This story clearly contradicts the “Jesus suffered for me so I don’t have to 'cause I’ve been forgiven of all sins, past, present, and future” theology of our Protestant brethren.

This punishment is not eternal punishment since Scripture says, “deliver this man…that his spirit may be saved…”

Since this punishment is not eternal it must be temporal.
 
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