What you have described is simply “abstraction”. If you had never encountered an orange in your life, and one had never been depicted or described to you, you could abstract an orange, but, it might look like and orange truck. Our analytical mind pulls up past images of actual oranges and “abstracts” their primary qualities and quantities - their determinates. Our mind might zero in on one image - perhaps a recent sighting of an orange - or, it might synthesize a number of past “frames” of oranges into one that is an “ideal” orange.
Information from the exterior realm travels on particles of light; which are then converted into an image of exterior reality. In other words “Real-time/Objective reality”, does not exist in your mind. We only ever get a secondary depiction of things which is generated in the non-abstract part of our perception, that part which gives us a steady stream of non-negotiable data. Much of the information that we receive from the exterior realm fails to register. In other words we do not see everything that exists objectively, because it’s likely that either the brain can’t convert it, or that we lose some of the information. It’s quite possible that the exterior world, as it is presented to us, is something like a holographic projection based upon an objective-abstract form of information, which is in turn made up of logical mathematical equations that represent particular qualities. The brain then converts these qualities into various physical constructs and dimensions that such qualities will allow; presenting to our actual minds a world of qualities accompanied by physical dimensions and locations.
So when Pythagoras said that the world is numbers, he might not be far from the truth. This may explain some of the odd occurrences in the quantum world, if we view reality like this? I hope this doesn’t sound dumb.
So far as the mind is concerned, we abstractedly contemplate that which we have seen, converting information stored in our memories according to coded sequences, into immaterial abstracts. All our memories exist abstractly and transcendently and are assigned physic markers in the brain. Sometimes these markers are damaged or destroyed, and thus, we cannot recall our memories.
Just like God caused the Universe. We can caused into being, to a limited degree, are own non-spatial abstract ideas, cutting and pasting according to what we wish to create. What we cannot do, is manifest them as physical entities by thoughts alone. Imagine if we could. The world be chaos!
Hmm. I conceive of nothingness as though I was looking out into space, a million miles from any solid object. I think of it as a deep blackness - so deep that any possible glimmer of light has been absorbed within a centimeter of its source. I think of it as devoid of any sensual impressions whatsoever. No color/visual, no tone/audio, no smell, no taste, no tactile, no light striking the optic nerve.
Everything you have just thought of and talked about, is actually something. A “deep blackness” is something. Nothing, as a real concept, has no description; it cannot be thought of, because it is not a being of any kind. When scientist talk of quantum events coming out of nothing, this is a misleading paradox. What they really mean, is that they cannot determine the cause in terms of classical physics. Quantum particles come in and out of existence according to a “fluctuations” of energy–which is something. It cannot come in to being if there is no being. It is logically impossible to know that something has come out of nothing.
I conceive it to be a place in space where nothing exists.
A place is something even if it is empty. It has dimensions.
I define “place” as the innermost surface of a surrounding body.
A surrounding body is something. Nothing cannot exist.
Thus, while nothing exists within that “place”, the “place” itself exists and is, or could be, real.
precisely; the place exists, even though there is nothing in that place. Therefore it is not completly nothing.
Nothingness from a spiritual perspective must be unending agony.
Agony presupposes something which feels agony.
Do you not think it possible to conceive of the mind/brain relationship analogously, as me, or you, in a tight car. The car being the brain and the me (or you) being the mind?
Yes. But the brain does some of the driving as well as the mind. They are dependent upon each other for the actuality of a living person.
You might be interested to know that the video industry has actually calculated the number of “frames”, so to speak, that can strike the optic nerve and be transmitted into memory. It is 26 per second. There are several companies currently working on 3-D television, without the use of glasses. The process and technology exists, however its so expensive that its not on the market yet. But, the 26 frames per second was an integral breakthrough in its development.
Its very interesting that a lot of the science fiction ideas of the past are becoming a reality; but a poor person like my self, will never have one.
God bless.