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Wouldn’t they self-destruct from so much evilness in one place? 😛
Naw – they were villains – but the Villains in an evil mirror universe would be the good guys!

Hey…didja hear about the apathetic Borg?

His designation was Six of One, Half-Dozen of the Other!
 
Of course the problem with the TNG and subsequent series was the dependence on technobabble.

And the fact that almost every problem would be solved by emitting the Particle of the Week through the main deflector array.

Of course, sometimes the physics would go completely off the rails. There was an episode where the *Enterprise *collided with the USS *Bozeman *(and blew up) near a temporal anomaly, where it got sent back in time a day or two to repeat those events over and over (fly in, collide, blow up, go back to start, do not collect $200).

The headaches and (un-)reality of time-travel aside…the episode led us to believe that a Galaxy-class starship’s tractor beam is not enough to deflect another starship (plausible, I guess); but popping open the shuttle bay doors would provide enough thrust through “decompression” to move an umpteen-ton starship out of the way? :eek: :rolleyes:

It was the 23rd century version of Superman. You know what I mean: bullets bounced off his chest and he didn’t blink; throw the empty gun at him and he’d duck. (Ha! Two for flinching! Thump thump!)
Voyager was especially guilty of this, but I still enjoyed it. How many times did Janeway use the deflector dish for something heroic?

Just bought the 4th season of Enterprise on DVD; such a shame that show started slow in its first two seasons. 3 and 4 were quite epic, IMO.
 
My idea for the ultimate Mirror Universe villain:

“We are the Borg Dominion…”
Eek!

Actually, there is a good series of books out now about the Mirror Universe. There are two books with three short stories in them. The first book has the events of the reign of Empress Hoshi Sato from immediately after “In a Mirror, Darkly” followed by the actions taken by Spock immediately after “Mirror, Mirror” and the events from the life of Luc Picard under the Klingon/Cardassian Alliance. The second book features the lives of our heroes from Voyager (they never got lost in the Delta Quadrant), a story from a non-canon series written by Peter David (who is, IMO, one of the BEST Trek book authors EVER!) and what becase of Indentant Kira and the Terran Resistance on Terok Nor. There seems to be some continuity throughout (it’s very well done) and I can’t wait for the third book to see what happens in this Universe next. The Spock story in the first book really lays out the foundation for the rest, so I’d look for it.
 
Stan and Rat- I remember that episode. It wasn’t that they were lesbians. They were all non-sexual. But this one had a throw-back gene or something that made her female.

And they programmed the urge to be female out of her.

I think the message was meant in the same way though. You know, gay people are born that way, so don’t try to program it out of them.
That was my understanding too. That the people on that planet were completly androgenous, and there were sometime genetic throwbacks to “male” or “female”- the alien in love with Riker had “female” urges but had to have it programmed out of her.
The message was a politically correct one, as you say, that people are born that way.(thinly veiled reference to sexual orientation)

I was about 11 when TOS came out my best friend and I loved it- My favorites are TOS,TNG, and Enterprise. I like DS9 and Voyager but I wasn’t watching a lot of TV(raising small kids) around the times they were airing and so didn’t get into them as much.
I actually thought the last season or so of Enterprise was particularly good.
I also like SG1 and Atlantis(yes I’m a geek too)
I loved Galaxy Quest as well, someone mentioned great Star Trek parody.
 
Actually that was from Voyager.

Voyager was my favorite as it correctly marketed the best villain in the entire Star Trek story line.

The Big
The Bad
The Borg!!

Its like Star Wars without the Death Star, Darth Vader and Emperor. Oh actually we know that was like as we did see Episodes 1 and 2!!

Kate Mulgrew, a pro-life Catholic actress, playing Captain Janeway was perfect for the role.

However, while I like Star Trek, Star Wars rules!!
Doesn’t Kate Mulgrew play a Catholic Saint in a movie? The name of the saint escapes me now( 1800’s American saint) but I didn’t know she was pro-life- that’s cool!
 
She played St Elizabeth Seton in a movie, not sure of the name though.
 
TOS- My family gathered around the TV with TV trays to watch these. I was very upset when the 5 year mission was canceled after 3. My favorite captain: Jean Luc Picard; DS9 got too weird with the Borg.
 
TOS- My family gathered around the TV with TV trays to watch these. I was very upset when the 5 year mission was canceled after 3. My favorite captain: Jean Luc Picard; DS9 got too weird with the Borg.
Never could warm up to DS9. The Bjoran, can’t remember her name, was a terrible actress, over-acted, and came across as way too overly self righteous. Really turned me off.

I liked the shape shifter though. Wish they’d had one on Voyager or TNG.
 
TOS- My family gathered around the TV with TV trays to watch these. I was very upset when the 5 year mission was canceled after 3. My favorite captain: Jean Luc Picard; DS9 got too weird with the Borg.
I couldn’t appreciate DS9 until I got all the series and watched them in their entirety.

IMO, DS9 had the best plot and writing of all of them. The fact that they had a well-written, overarching story arch that lasted from season 3 to the end was fantastic (the Dominion War). I initially found it slow and plodding compared to TNG or Voyager, which were more episodic and had a lot more action per episode (since they tended to wrap up plotlines much quicker).

Though re: the Borg and DS9, I don’t think they ever made an appearance on the show. They were featured (and somewhat abused on Voyager a lot), but the only major villain on DS9 were the Cardassians and the Dominion, led by the shapeshifitng founders. Someone can obviously correct me if I am wrong.
 
There were no borg on DS9. That was all on Voyager and TNG. DS9 was all about the Dominion and Cardassians and the ‘gods’ in the worm hole. IMO, it was much better than Voyager by light years.
 
Large story arcs…space station with a number (actually a number with a long I in it) in the name…alien religions…ancient energy beings…

Good lord, it’s Babylon 5!

No, wait, it’s DS9.

Coincidence?

Probably not.

Even if it is a little bit of a ripoff, though, it’s still the best Star Trek (although there are some intriguing things, i.e. real science fiction, in “Enterprise”, and in DS9 neither Klingons nor Jem’Hadar ever bloody kick).
 
I’ve been a Trekker since the original series was broadcast in 1966 and enjoyed every series and every movie, to varying degrees.
Gene Roddenberry’s optimistic view of the future gave me hope and fed into my Catholic beliefs that humans are essentially good and salvageable, like the Prodigal Son.
That is why I don’t give up on people, am always willing to forgive and welcome them to the fold, either as newcomers or returning Catholics.
 
Anybody ready for the 11th movie?
I was greatly disappointed to hear that it will be a prequel. That’s Star Wars, not Star Trek. Star Trek is about exploration and the unknown. That’s why I have to say that DS9 was my least favorite of the series- because it was set on a station rather than a ship that was exploring the galaxy. It’s a shame, too, because I think that, for the most part, DS9 had better actors than TNG and Voyager. Well, maybe J.J. will surprise us, but remember, it is an odd numbered movie.😃
 
I was greatly disappointed to hear that it will be a prequel. That’s Star Wars, not Star Trek. Star Trek is about exploration and the unknown. That’s why I have to say that DS9 was my least favorite of the series- because it was set on a station rather than a ship that was exploring the galaxy. It’s a shame, too, because I think that, for the most part, DS9 had better actors than TNG and Voyager. Well, maybe J.J. will surprise us, but remember, it is an odd numbered movie.😃
I can’t wait for it. I think the franchise is definately in need of a reboot. Enterprise was a great prequel, and I think this one will be great as well.
 
I can’t wait for it. I think the franchise is definately in need of a reboot. Enterprise was a great prequel, and I think this one will be great as well.
I hope you’re right. We’ll just have to wait and see. Same with the X-Files movie.
 
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