Sterilization of the American Population?

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What are your thoughts on the sterilization (permanent or temporary) of certain segments of the American population as the poor, mentally disabled, etc., in the past, present, or future? After taking the poll please state your religious affiliation and share your thoughts.
 
I can think of few things more abominable, and I don’t need a priest to tell me so.
 
Sometimes I wonder if repeat child abusers should be sterilized. But for the severely mentally handicapped…I think its a good idea. Some people, like severely autistic people, are incapable of being parents and undergoing a pregnancy could be very confusing for them…
 
Should society really decide who should or should not be repoducing? People who are mentally challenged or mentally slow may still be good parents and raise children who are just as valuable to society as anyone else’s children. I mean if all the people with some type mental or pyschological problems or trauma were not allowed to reproduce the American population would collapse. Also, through out history many people who were thought to be mentally disabled, dumb, or useless cripples were actually quite intelligent.
 
Although I acknowledge that some pople with mental disabilities are unable to raise children, I would prefer caring for them and protecting them from predators to sterilizing them.
 
This sounds like something straight out of the eugenics that Hitler and Margerate Sanger and plannedparenthood were and are involved in:nope: We have NO business doing things like that:( In Memphis a mentally retarded woman who had 10 children was court ordered to be surgically sterilized because she was on public assistance.Well,I have one question:ehh: Where are the fathers?:confused: Oops another question,if you have to get public assistance do you have to be at the mercy of the state as far as your ability to procreate?This is a rare case,but the questions are still there.
 
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Oops another question,if you have to get public assistance do you have to be at the mercy of the state as far as your ability to procreate?This is a rare case,but the questions are still there.
Absolutely not. We do not surrender our humanity to anyone for any reason. A government demanding such a surrender is a government devoid of justice, and it follows, devoid of authority.

The dignity of the human person is unalienable. No exceptions, no exceptions, no exceptions.
 
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Should society really decide who should or should not be repoducing? People who are mentally challenged or mentally slow may still be good parents and raise children who are just as valuable to society as anyone else’s children. I mean if all the people with some type mental or pyschological problems or trauma were not allowed to reproduce the American population would collapse. Also, through out history many people who were thought to be mentally disabled, dumb, or useless cripples were actually quite intelligent.
I did not say all disabled people. I said severely disabled people who had NO HOPE of being a valid parent. Someone with a severe mental disability like someone with severe autism who cant even work etc.
 
Direct sterilization ALWAYS is gravely sinful. Why are we even debating whether people should commit mortal sin? Isn’t the answer to that always “no”?

By the way, I feel that this is in many cases even more heinous than murder or abortion. Both murder and procuring an abortion are *sometimes * committed under duress. To sterilize under the conditions stated in the original post would be coldly calculated mortal sin. :mad:
 
Sounds like a prety sick and twisted plan to me. If we are going to do evil to them, we ought to just hang them.
 
As Christians we should always have hope … so I cannot imagine someone who is with out hope … because hope is a cornerstone of faith. I or no one else has the right to rip the ability to create life from someone else’s body. I would say it is a crime and sin equal to murder if not worse!
 
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Absolutely not. We do not surrender our humanity to anyone for any reason. A government demanding such a surrender is a government devoid of justice, and it follows, devoid of authority.

The dignity of the human person is unalienable. No exceptions, no exceptions, no exceptions.
I agree this should not have been done at all my point is look at what our courts have already done-Roe v wade,Terri Schiavo and the cases we may never hear about,like the one I just shared with you.Why did this case not make national news?It looks to me that under the guise of convenience,monetary burden or judgements on “quality of life” our courts are gaining ground along with the MSM are convincing people and passing laws for our doom,unless of course you are deemed “worthy”.So what do we do?:confused: Do we wait for our family to be next?Thirty years plus and abortion is still legal,the disabled are targets for mercy killings now:nope: I guarantee the woman here is not an isolated case.How prevelant is this?This bothers me when any human and their inherant dignaty is tread upon,so I ask again what do we do?
 
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Sounds like a prety sick and twisted plan to me. If we are going to do evil to them, we ought to just hang them.
You know,I understand Trelow:ehh: When Terri was suffering through that horrible death,I thought why do they not just shoot her,why are they being so cruel:crying: The total lack of compassion is unimaginable to me.Where have we gone in a society that unborn children are expendable the disabled are expendable,and you had better believe they will start sterilizing people with or without permission I am afraid.We have accepted evil,there is no sin anymore it is all written off as a mental disorder(and yes I know they exist).I am afraid that is is the next logical step and alot of America will embrace forced sterilization.:nope:
 
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In Memphis a mentally retarded woman who had 10 children was court ordered to be surgically sterilized because she was on public assistance.Well,I have one question:ehh: Where are the fathers]

Excellent question. People who are not able to protect themselves should have protection, and I don’t mean sterilization. If they sterilize her they are just saying, Too bad, she’s going to get raped, so let’s make sure she doesn’t get pregnant.
This woman might have been competent to choose whether she wanted to have sex or not, but in many cases mentally retarded people are taken advantage of, and should be protected.
 
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bluezone7:
What are your thoughts on the sterilization (permanent or temporary) of certain segments of the American population as the poor, mentally disabled, etc., in the past, present, or future? After taking the poll please state your religious affiliation and share your thoughts.

There may be a case for the castration of rapists - but that would be (has been, in certain cultures) a punishment for a crime. This, is quite different - it is abominable to treat the weakest members of society in this way for no other crimes than that of their weakness. Yet it has happened - and it could happen again. Which is why the election of the present Pope is such a Godsend.​

A nation that persecutes its weakest members is on the way to committing genocide. If it has no mercy on them, on will it show mercy ? It will end by destroying itself. ##
 
Even rapist should not be castrated…with our screwed up justice system …innocent people would just end up being the victims of a corrupt state and legal system. Look at all the innocent people in the past convicted of rape and murder and found innocent 10 to 20 years later. Also psychologist and sociologist have proven over and over again that castrated sex offenders are just as likely to commit the same sex crimes again. Plus castrating them would just mess them up even more … they could end up becoming mass murderers or serial killers because they would end up even more angry. Rape is not about sex but power.
 
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bluezone7:
Even rapist should not be castrated…with our screwed up justice system …innocent people would just end up being the victims of a corrupt state and legal system. Look at all the innocent people in the past convicted of rape and murder and found innocent 10 to 20 years later. Also psychologist and sociologist have proven over and over again that castrated sex offenders are just as likely to commit the same sex crimes again.

Not if they lacked the body parts needed for the crime, they couldn’t.​

Plus castrating them would just mess them up even more … they could end up becoming mass murderers or serial killers because they would end up even more angry. Rape is not about sex but power.

Even so, crime is crime - and while there must be a place for rehabilitation, there has to be a punishment: especially, perhaps, punishment severe enough to be a deterrent. Mutilation is one possibility.​

 
Gottle I am torn over that too:nope: The nine year old girl in Florida was raped had a plastic bag put over her head a trash bag put over her unclothed body while she clung to her stuffed animal and buried alive:mad: :banghead: They gave these details yesterday:crying: Now the guy who did it:nope: What as a Christian would you do to him?I want to go to confession just for the violent temptations about this guy.Can I pray for him yes,could I imagine him being out NO!:crying:
 

drug addicts who push out crack addicted babies like a conveyor belt should be sterilized.
As for mentally retarded people having children how fair is that to the child?​

What as a Christian would you do to him?​

Torture him.
 
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