Strange Homily regarding the Last Days

[carlos19]

Today’s homily was rather strange to me. Our priest preached about today’s readings specifically Mark 13:24-32 and the last days.

He said the following things which struck me as kind of odd and rather unorthodox.

He said that Jesus did not say any of the things that he was supposed to have said in Mark Ch 13:24-32. This was just something that was believed by Mark that was applied to Jesus.

He said Jesus did not speak about the last days or heaven for that matter at all. He was a person who lived in the present and the establishment of the Church.

Basically our priest said that this message was meant convey the message that we must transform into another person (hence our world ends) to be more like Jesus.

He also said the when we pray the liturgical prayer that Jesus will come again we do not mean the end of the world at all. Just that he be present in our lives.

Is there any tract or part of the catechism that I can read about the actual teaching of the church about the end of days?

 

[carlos19]

by the way, he has also said in other homilies about the transfiguration really did not happen, and the St. Paul probably did not write several a few of the letters attributed to him.

He is a very likeable person he just teaches weird things sometimes…I am at a loss for words.

 

[waanju]

I don’t know how to subscribe without commenting, but I want to see the responses to this.
I suspect your priest is teaching really wrong things, but I’m not 100% sure.

 

[Megan7]

by the way, he has also said in other homilies about the transfiguration really did not happen, and the St. Paul probably did not write several a few of the letters attributed to him.

He is a very likeable person he just teaches weird things sometimes…I am at a loss for words.

Wow!

We are never supposed to speak badly about Priests, and that is not what I am doing here. But, I would definitely find another parish. Once you find the answers, maybe you can ask to meet with him in private & discuss this as well. Pray for him. I am also concerned about others in your Church

God bless.

 

[Julia_Mae]

by the way, he has also said in other homilies about the transfiguration really did not happen, and the St. Paul probably did not write several a few of the letters attributed to him.

He is a very likeable person he just teaches weird things sometimes…I am at a loss for words.

I had one pastor who didn’t believe in transubstantiation and another who didn’t believe Jesus multiplied the loaves and fishes.

And they wonder why Catholics stop going to Mass.

 

[Don_Jackson]

I can only agree on what he said about Paul.

 

[waanju]

I had one pastor who didn’t believe in transubstantiation and another who didn’t believe Jesus multiplied the loaves and fishes.

And they wonder why Catholics stop going to Mass.

wowowowowowoowowowowoowow
for the first one at least, the Bishop should be notified. For the sake of everyone in that parish!

 

[nhamm10]

Well December 21, 2012 is coming up where a lot of people believe it will be the end! Our priest actually brought it up today but not in that manner. Maybe if you think about what he was saying he was trying to assure everyone not to get sucked into the fear that we are not going to be in existence in a few weeks? Not to stress or be overcome with worry maybe he has had a lot of people seeking him with worry?

 

[Allegra]

Well December 21, 2012 is coming up where a lot of people believe it will be the end! Our priest actually brought it up today but not in that manner. Maybe if you think about what he was saying he was trying to assure everyone not to get sucked into the fear that we are not going to be in existence in a few weeks? Not to stress or be overcome with worry maybe he has had a lot of people seeking him with worry?

Even if that was his intention, what he said was still incorrect. A priest is obligated to preach the teachings of the Church, not tell little “white lies” to make everyone feel better. Our priest talked about the end times as well today, but he reminded us that the story has a joyful ending.

 

[littlechicken]

I don’t know how to subscribe without commenting, but I want to see the responses to this.
I suspect your priest is teaching really wrong things, but I’m not 100% sure.

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[littlechicken]

Wow!

We are never supposed to speak badly about Priests, and that is not what I am doing here. But, I would definitely find another parish. Once you find the answers, maybe you can ask to meet with him in private & discuss this as well. Pray for him. I am also concerned about others in your Church

God bless.

Bolding mine.
I diidn’t know that.

 

[waanju]

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Thanks! I’d always wondered!

 

[Jeanne_S]

I had one pastor who didn’t believe in transubstantiation and another who didn’t believe Jesus multiplied the loaves and fishes.

And they wonder why Catholics stop going to Mass.

How long ago was this? I have noticed that the young priests coming out of our seminaries are very well formed and reverent.This issue in large part by the efforts of Pope JohnII and Pope Benedict.

 

[littlechicken]

Thanks! I’d always wondered!

You’re welcome.

 

[Robert_Caritas]

How long ago was this? I have noticed that the young priests coming out of our seminaries are very well formed and reverent.This issue in large part by the efforts of Pope JohnII and Pope Benedict.

I’ve read this and the opposite. That in some cases tradition has become much more respected, but in others that anti-traditional stances are being pushed forward more aggressively. Though this is from the internet so I can’t really judge how widespread each phenomenon is.

 

[Julia_Mae]

How long ago was this? I have noticed that the young priests coming out of our seminaries are very well formed and reverent.This issue in large part by the efforts of Pope JohnII and Pope Benedict.

The first one was the guy who replaced our old Pastor, and I left Denver 10 years ago, so, I guess he’d be 60-ish now. I never said anything because Father never said anything publicly about it. But he did say something once that made me ask one day when I caught him on his own (I was the sacristan) and when I asked directly of he believed that the bread and wine become the blood and body of Christ he hesitated, said, “Yeeeessssssss, but I don’t believe in transubstantiation.” I really didn’t want to hear any more and I said, “I see,” and left. He performed his priestly duties in terms of Mass well, although he was one who would insist on walking around on the floor instead of using the ambo, so mostly you couldn’t see him at all, but he was a decent enough sort and I don’t doubt the confection of the Eucharist took place.

The second guy is in Connecticut where I’ll be moving into my daughter’s place and he’ll be my Pastor and I peg him at mid-fifties. I’m hoping to convert him!

In the end, there simply are not enough priests and I think Bishops are just glad when they can fill a position. I do wish the 2nd one hadn’t decided to include his ideas in a homily.

And young priests make, generally, terrible Pastors, they just don’t have the experience. The young one across the street is all “Let’s have Mass in Latin every day forever!” but is just really … he’s a kid. He gives homilies where he whines about his personal life. I saw him totally blow off someone who came in seeking answers about why there are no Bibles in the pews. Believe me, Protestants find that shocking! He got very defensive and abrupt instead of saying, “RCIA starts in two weeks…” Way too much ego, way too little years working with people.

But these priests are not the problem, they are not getting guidance they need, I think because Bishops are afraid to lean on them or they’ll leave. They can, you know, it’s not unthinkable anymore. And, for us, the Sacraments are intact.

More prayer. It’s always the answer.