Struggling with masturbation.

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Prayers said for you.

St. Michael the Archangel,
Defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray,
and do thou,
O Prince of the Heavenly hosts,
By the Divine power of God,
Cast into hell satan,
And all the evil spirits,
Who prowl through the world,
Seeking the ruin of souls.
Amen.

God Bless.
 
1 Thessalonians 4:3-8

3 It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; 4 that each of you should learn to control your own body[a] in a way that is holy and honorable, 5 not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God; 6 and that in this matter no one should wrong or take advantage of a brother or sister.** The Lord will punish all those who commit such sins, as we told you and warned you before. 7 For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. 8 Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction does not reject a human being but God, the very God who gives you his Holy Spirit.**
 
The OP asked for prayers, not your judgment…
here, here boldly,
that poor soul…I doubt will appear on heir own thread ever again…say, Pope Mary DCCLXXVII, this is a prayer thread; not Baltimore Catechism 101
the Lord blesses you Maddyts10, you will find strength in the Holy Spirit…Amen
 
here, here boldly,
that poor soul…I doubt will appear on heir own thread ever again…say, Pope Mary DCCLXXVII, this is a prayer thread; not Baltimore Catechism 101
the Lord blesses you Maddyts10, you will find strength in the Holy Spirit…Amen
Now that’s interesting. Are you saying there’s more to the faith than just the Catechism?
 
Saying that I have no hope for salvstion makes me deeply saddened and depressed. After all I have gone through the same feeling when I realised I was a lesbian.
Just with regard to impure temptations Maddyts10,
If free, deliberate thoughts with full knowledge, are thought of lustfully, particularly if they are lesbian thoughts, if the thoughts are deliberate, freely committed, and thought of with full knowledge, are a mortal sin each time.(according to the catechism)

The Bible does say, “My People perish for lack of knowledge.”
So it is crucial to have the knowledge of what is a mortal sin, and needs to be avoided for fear of being separated from God forever.

We must have a balanced measure of fear of separation from God and love of God.
St Theresa of Avila wrote that, so that we don’t presume He will forgive us anyway., and also so that we don’t despair that our sin is greater than His Mercy.

Jesus Mercy is greater than any sin.

But we must choose.that Mercy by not sinning in thoughts or words or actions.
So it is very important to be informed as
 
You have Internet.
Your parish priests email and telephone number should be online on your parish website or diocesan website priest index.

Message him would it suit to confess sometime

Don’t delay. At least ask him.
 
.*** I don’t wish to minimise sins of the flesh however your sin you cite MAY have been venial, depending on the circumstances. Only God truly knows. ***

You have apologised to God. You may well be perfectly contrite. If you are then God would have accepted your apology. But get to confession at the next earliest possible opportunity.

Do you go to Mass every week? Can you not ask the priest for confession on that occasion? Explain your circumstances. Maybe even 5 minutes before Mass the priest may hear your confession.

God is NOT waiting to catch us out when we fall. Rather he is waiting to catch us when we fall. Like the good and loving Father He is. He knows we are dust. He knows our weakness. He loves and forgives us. He just asks us to “go and sin no more”.

Peace.
It’s good not to minimalize and rationalise sin and blame something else. And I agree with trusting in God’s Mercy also.

The Catechism.says grave matter must be mentioned in confession. (that’s because grave matter only needs to 3 conditions to be a mortal sin. The saints argue it is very difficult to sin and not be accountable or in mortal sin because the law of God is written on our hearts regardless of our religious beliefs or practice.)
Because grave matter “can” be a mortal sin under each occasion, the Catechism advises confessing it, not receiving communion if unsure, and avoiding with God’s help, from committing any grave matter

Because receiving communion and not confessing during confession (under.the three conditions is the mortal sin of sacrilege).

(Grave matter is usually major.sins against each of the Commandments).

Agreed that Catholics need to despise.sin, and love God. Equally.

Either on its own is either despairing or presumptive.
Despairing of God’s Mercy, or presuming God will forgive anyway.

It must be a mix of all the following three to be successful,
“I don’t want to be separated from God,
I will sin no more with His help,
I trust God’s Mercy.”

Jesus said in the Bible, some demons can only be cast out through prayer and fasting

Daily prayer is what gives someone a constant daily.filling of the Holy Spirit.
Doing little sacrifices, especially of some superficial materialistic things or sinful things, twice a week, is how to fast. Eg giving up TV on Wed and Fri
 
It’s good not to minimalize and rationalise sin and blame something else. And I agree with trusting in God’s Mercy also.

The Catechism.says grave matter must be mentioned in confession. (that’s because grave matter only needs to 3 conditions to be a mortal sin. The saints argue it is very difficult to sin and not be accountable or in mortal sin because the law of God is written on our hearts regardless of our religious beliefs or practice.)
Because grave matter “can” be a mortal sin under each occasion, the Catechism advises confessing it, not receiving communion if unsure, and avoiding with God’s help, from committing any grave matter

Because receiving communion and not confessing during confession (under.the three conditions is the mortal sin of sacrilege).

(Grave matter is usually major.sins against each of the Commandments).

Agreed that Catholics need to despise.sin, and love God. Equally.

Either on its own is either despairing or presumptive.
Despairing of God’s Mercy, or presuming God will forgive anyway.

It must be a mix of all the following three to be successful,
“I don’t want to be separated from God,
I will sin no more with His help,
I trust God’s Mercy.”

Jesus said in the Bible, some demons can only be cast out through prayer and fasting

Daily prayer is what gives someone a constant daily.filling of the Holy Spirit.
Doing little sacrifices, especially of some superficial materialistic things or sinful things, twice a week, is how to fast. Eg giving up TV on Wed and Fri
You’re good at evangelization.
 
Praying. Also pray the Rosary everyday if you don’t already it only takes about 20 minutes and preferably do it before you feel tempted.
 
Just with regard to impure temptations Maddyts10,
If free, deliberate thoughts with full knowledge, are thought of lustfully, particularly if they are lesbian thoughts, if the thoughts are deliberate, freely committed, and thought of with full knowledge, are a mortal sin each time.
So when I fall into temptation of homosexual thoughts it is worse than if I was to do so heterosexual? If so this is another point on the list of why I hate my sexual orientation and wish I wasnt this way.
 
The OP had the erroneous thought of believing that committing masturbation without lustful thoughts is not a mortal sin.

When the catechism clearly states that the act of masturbation is always grave matter, and that under the 3 conditions the act is a mortal sin.

The Bible says; "My People perish for lack of knowledge

The Bible also says: “Instruct the uninstructed.”
Please reread the catechism, and perhaps talk to a priest…

To paraphrase a prominent contemporary theologian: ‘Use the Bible only on thyself…’
 
Hi maddy

Lustful thoughts are lustful thoughts: it doesn’t matter whether they are homosexual or heterosexual. Just because such thoughts are homosexual doesn’t increase their sinfulness. In a similar manner, just because they are heterosexual doesn’t lessen their sinfulness.

Thoughts are just that, thoughts. They can easily pop into our minds. In fact the evil one can even influence our imaginations causing us to think sinful things. Thoughts in and of themselves aren’t necessarily sinful, never mind mortally sinful. Where sin enters the picture is when we consent to the thought and dwell on it i.e. enjoy it. This is a moment of potentially great danger as when we begin to enjoy something in thought, it is but a short step to act. I don’t believe thoughts by themselves are mortally sinful. It is actions that are sinful.

Say the Rosary daily for purity. Pray " Lord, grant me a pure heart". Think about how much God loves and desires our purity. It is my experience that prayers are more powerful, efficacious and pleasing to God when we are pure.

It is a battle, a fierce one at that. But. God gives us the grace if we ask. If we ask. This doesn’t mean there won’t be temptations. Just that we will NEVER be tempted beyond our strength.

You are wise to fear hell. I do too. But we choose our fate. Choose God in this life and you WILL enjoy being with Him in eternity. How many live with no thought for God in this life and behave as if He did not exist, yet expect to be with Him in eternity?

Love God. Live for and with Him always by your side and in your heart and then, though all hell comes against you, have NO fear.

Peace.
 
Please reread the catechism, and perhaps talk to a priest…

To paraphrase a prominent contemporary theologian: ‘Use the Bible only on thyself…’
The Catechism states masturbation, under the three conditions is a mortal sin. And is always grave matter.

Pope John Paul II said about the Catechism: “I put my apostolic authority on this work.”

If you want an exact quote:

2352: “By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. ‘Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action.’ ‘The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose.’ For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of ‘the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved’.”

“To form an equitable judgment about the subjects’ moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability.”

Prior to Persona humana, the Magisterium had condemned masturbation on multiple occasions. In his 1054 letter to St. Peter Damian, Pope Leo IX censured, inter alia, the shameful deed of those who brought forth the seed “by their own hands” (propriis manibus; Denzinger-Hünermann [Denz.-H] 2010, 688). In 1665 the Holy Office referred to the sin of “pollution” — with the clear implication of masturbation (Denz.-H 2010, 2044). In 1929 the same Holy Office rejected recourse to masturbation for obtaining a medical specimen of sperm (Denz.-H 2010, 2044). Pope Pius XII reaffirmed the condemnation of masturbation — even when done for medical purposes — in 1953 and 1956 (cf. Acta apostolicae sedis [AAS] 45 [1953] 678 and AAS 48 [1956] 472-473). In 1952 he also rejected the argument that sins of masturbation during adolescence do not constitute a grave matter (AAS 44 [1952], 275-276).

Masturbation is not mentioned by name in either the Old or New Testament. Some theologians have associated it with the sin of Onan, who practiced withdrawal to avoid fulfilling his duty to his brother’s widow (Gen. 38:8-10). Others have tried to associate masturbation with one of the sins listed by St. Paul in I Corinthians 6:9 (sexual immorality, idolatry, adultery, male prostitution, homosexual offenses) or in Galatians 5:19-21 (adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness). A direct prohibition of deliberately engaging in sexual fantasy is also included; in Matthew 5:28 Jesus says, “Everyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” The act of willful masturbation virtually always involves sexual fantasy and often involves the use of pornography, thus coming under the prohibition against adultery in the heart.

The Church teaches that masturbation is driven by lust (epithumeo), and the scriptural warnings against lust are clear and unequivocal, such as in these passages:

For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality, that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in passion of lust, like the Gentiles who do not know God (1 Thess 4:3-5).

Beloved, I beg you as sojourners and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul (1 Pet 2:11).

Let us walk properly, as in the day, not in revelry and drunkenness, not in lewdness and lust … But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to fulfill its lusts (Rom 13:13-14).

But fornication, and all uncleanness, let it not be once named among you, as becomes saints; neither filthiness. For it is a shame to [even] speak of those things which are done of them in secret, let alone do them (Eph 5:3, 12). For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live (Rom 8:13).

Being a “grave moral disorder” and “an intrinsically and gravely disordered action” the Church teaches that even a single act of masturbation can theoretically send a person to Hell for all eternity

In order to be a mortal sin, two additional factors must be present:
The person must commit the act with full knowledge of the sin and of its seriousness.

“It must be committed with deliberate and complete consent.”

This sin cannot be committed by accident.
Full knowledge means it’s a mortal sin.
 
Yes, sexual sins have different levels of grieviousness,

And yes the catechism states, a temptation is not a sin, but deliberately and freely in full knowledge mulling over committing those temptations and fantasies, or thinking you are decided you will commit those acts, that’s a mortal sin in thoughts under the three conditions.
Jesus said that a person can commit mortal sins against chastity just in their thoughts alone. It’s biblical.

If your thoughts were free, deliberate, and in full knowledge of their sinfulness, then they are a mortal sin.
If not then just temptations.

There is a level of seriousness and gravity among sexual sins :
Eg:
Looking at Pornography is worse than looking at someone attractive and thinking lustful thoughts,

Masturbation is worse than lustful thoughts because it combines lustful actions with the lustful thoughts,

fornication is worse than masturbation because someone else was led to mortal sin with the person,

Adultery is even worse again than fornication because it’s with a married person who has been caused to also break vows made to God and their spouse and because it damages a whole family,

Sodomy is even worse still because it’s completely carnal with another person and completely against the command of God in nature of how procreation must.take place,

Homosexual acts are a sin because like Sodomy, and masturbation, it’s against God’s natural plan of union to create children, and hence completely a carnal act, (and also because it causes another human being to commit not only a sin against chastity but a sin against nature and their own body),

Contraception is a different level of seriousness because it often kills the foetus to prevent growth of the foetus into a child in the womb, and medication that does that is murder,
 
Yes, sexual sins have different levels of grieviousness,

And yes the catechism states, a temptation is not a sin, but deliberately and freely in full knowledge mulling over committing those temptations and fantasies, or thinking you are decided you will commit those acts, that’s a mortal sin in thoughts under the three conditions.
Jesus said that a person can commit mortal sins against chastity just in their thoughts alone. It’s biblical.

If your thoughts were free, deliberate, and in full knowledge of their sinfulness, then they are a mortal sin.
If not then just temptations.

There is a level of seriousness and gravity among sexual sins :
Eg:
Looking at Pornography is worse than looking at someone attractive and thinking lustful thoughts,

Masturbation is worse than lustful thoughts because it combines lustful actions with the lustful thoughts,

fornication is worse than masturbation because someone else was led to mortal sin with the person,

Adultery is even worse again than fornication because it’s with a married person who has been caused to also break vows made to God and their spouse and because it damages a whole family,

Sodomy is even worse still because it’s completely carnal with another person and completely against the command of God in nature of how procreation must.take place,

Homosexual acts are a sin because like Sodomy, and masturbation, it’s against God’s natural plan of union to create children, and hence completely a carnal act, (and also because it causes another human being to commit not only a sin against chastity but a sin against nature and their own body),

Contraception is a different level of seriousness because it often kills the foetus to prevent growth of the foetus into a child in the womb,
Could you expound on this?
 
Could you expound on this?
all sexual sins are grave matter, according to the catechism, and Under the three conditions are mortal sins.

Some are worse mortal sins than others depending on how many morals, natural laws, consequences, and people who are hurt by them.

Eg: adultery with a single person, vs adultery between two married people,
In the second situation two separate spouses broke wedding vows to God and potentially damaged two married families. The consequences are worse. The morals broken between the two are greater. The amount of people who can be hurt is far more.
 
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