Stuff concerning voting for a pro-abortion candidate

[Rau]

…Climate change will not save you from natural disasters, nor the inevitable destruction of this finite Earth, not to mention the hundreds of Climate Change predications that have turned out to be total bogus, who collected all the money for those bogus predictions I wonder? who were held to account for them being bogus I wonder?

Josh, you may personally judge climate change to be a beat-up, but there is no “either/or” situation here. One can properly have concern for both the unborn threatened by abortion and for our environment threatened by man-made pollution and its effects. It too can and does kill.

The US election shows no signs of making any material change to the prevailing attitudes in the US toward abortion. The US people have an unenviable decision ahead of them and I for one don’t want to add to their misery by suggesting the election should be determined on one issue.

 

[Rau]

That is why I am against Hillary, I oppose abortion, especially the late term ones…Hillary supports a woman’s right to choose a late term abortion.

Certainly Hillary’s position deserves opposition. And certainly it would be wrong to support Hillary as a mean to promote and support her position. But the pro-abortion stance of a candidate does not *rule out *that candidate for support, even for a Catholic.

 

[SuperLuigi]

I’ve yet to see a pro-abortion candidate.

There are anti-abortion candidates and candidates who think it’s not their business.

Suppose there were candidates who were anti-slavery and those who thought slavery was none of their business.

 

[jtav]

My understanding is that one can vote for any candidate but:

a) one cannot vote for them because of whatever mortal sin they advocate (ie you can’t vote for Clinton because of her abortion stance).

b)you have to have a proportionate reason to do so, not mere partisan ID or personal gain.

Since the two parties have degenerated into “which moral evil would you like to support?” I’m voting McMullin and hoping ASP is eventually on the ballot in my state. If you forced me to pick and I couldn’t stay home, I’d vote for Clinton because I’m afraid a Trump administration would give all sorts of tools to foes of religious liberty when the Dems came to power and would also harm our witness as Christians. But neither choice is good for Catholics.

 

[Convert_in_99]

The best part of this election is that it will be over tomorrow. Hallelujah!

 

[Maximilan_Kolbe]

The best part of this election is that it will be over tomorrow. Hallelujah!

8 days from now. Or else I have to speed up my Novena to St. Thomas More.

 

[Kielbasi]

I’ve yet to see a pro-abortion candidate.

There are anti-abortion candidates and candidates who think it’s not their business.

You need to look a little closer then.

There are candidates out there that are definitely pro-abort, and think that the taxpayers should pay for abortion–even if those taxpayers are pro-life and against abortion.

There are no prominent candidates who just want to separate government from the abortion trade. The supposedly “pro-choice” candidates are usually a misnomer, as they push for government paid procedures.

Its either pro-life or pro-abort right now, not to say that a true “pro-choice” position isn’t possible

 

[josh987654321]

The best part of this election is that it will be over tomorrow. Hallelujah!

I really don’t understand this, what is ‘Hallelujah’ about the ending of an election that could result in Clinton and our persecution? I will only ‘Hallelujah’ the end of an election if such corruption and evil is managed to be stopped, not if we end up losing. Why ‘Hallelujah’ a short election rather than a good outcome?

So careful what you wish for, it might just come true.

I hope this has helped

God Bless You

Thank you for reading
Josh

 

[jtav]

Election is next week. First Tuesday after the first Monday. And I’ll be glad when it’s over.

 

[josh987654321]

Election is next week. First Tuesday after the first Monday. And I’ll be glad when it’s over.

Why would one care more about when it ends, rather than a good outcome?

I hope this has helped

God Bless You

Thank you for reading
Josh

 

[jtav]

Why would one care more about when it ends, rather than a good outcome?

I hope this has helped

God Bless You

Thank you for reading
Josh

I don’t think there is a plausible good outcome. Both major-party candidates support intrinsic evils. I’ve seen Christians belittle sexual harassment, say vile, racist things, and pray for Clinton’s death. Neither Clinton’s likely policies nor gutting our Christian witness is a good outcome, with persecution (if it comes) being by far the better of the two.

 

[lynnvinc]

…p.s. Climate change will not save you from natural disasters, nor the inevitable destruction of this finite Earth, not to mention the hundreds of Climate Change predications that have turned out to be total bogus, who collected all the money for those bogus predictions I wonder? who were held to account for them being bogus I wonder?

Not worried about my own life…which is on the way out at my age. I just don’t like killing people, and that is exactly what we are doing by contributing to climate change and other serious environmental problems that kill people. I’ve never had an abortion, so you cannot accuse me of that, but I have contributed to killing people in other ways, including poisoning and starving them thru climate change and other serious environmental harms. You have too, no doubt.

I know it is very difficult to admit we are killers, but that is what we are. Voting for an arch-killer like Trump is very bad, but what’s is even worse for our souls is our own killing of people, and what is still worse is denying it.

We are the children of Cain, chips off the ole block.