Substitutionary Atonement

[carinapir]

Here is another great article about the atonement that cleared up a lot for me. The fact is that the spiritual details of exactly what Jesus did for us remains a mystery. But as others have said pure “Penal substitution” is not accepted by the CC.

newadvent.org/cathen/02055a.htm

 

[Catholic_Dude]

Here is a Penal Substitution debate that took place earlier this year:
catholicdefense.googlepages.com/psdebate

 

[MarcoPolo]

Here is a Penal Substitution debate that took place earlier this year:
catholicdefense.googlepages.com/psdebate

In skimming that debate and your Justification article, I especially find enlightenment in your pointing out the OT sacrifice of the Lamb.

 

[Nathan_Wagar]

Here is the link to my thread posts Marco:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthrea…=382434&page=

The first part covers the natur of the sacrifice, the other parts cover the real presence, etc. It’s long, but worth the read. If you want more references such as Church councils, fathers, etc, I can get those too.

 

[MarcoPolo]

Here is the link to my thread posts Marco:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthrea…=382434&page=

The first part covers the natur of the sacrifice, the other parts cover the real presence, etc. It’s long, but worth the read. If you want more references such as Church councils, fathers, etc, I can get those too.

I can’t see this link. It is apparently a long link and these forums don’t accommodate a long link. Can you either highlight a word and click “Insert Link” or could you shorten the link with a handy link-shortener site like tinyurl.com and then paste the shortened shortcut?

 

[Nathan_Wagar]

Try this one

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=382434&page=4

 

[ecloist]

I accept with information:Hell is existence without God’s love and light and as Jesus is God He cannot be without God’s light and love. He who is God cannot reject God. Hell is not so much the punishment as the consequence. It is experienced as punishment.