Suffering and knowledge

[Nita]

As far as i understand the following to statements would be consistent with church teaching, with the first being dogma as far as i know:

Jesus always knew He is God.

Jesus suffered like man suffers.

But they are inconsistent, so please help me understanding.

The problem of course is that the quality of suffering depends a lot on what one knows, especially the knowledge about the purpose or absence of purpose of the suffering and the long and short term outlook of the situation.

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To say that Jesus suffered as/like man suffers doesn’t mean that He had to experience every single physical suffering experienced by humans and experience it in all the varying degrees of intensity. Neither does it mean that He had to experience every single mental and emotional pain that has ever been suffered by a human.
It means that he had a human nature and His humanity was subject to suffering in the same way that all other humans can suffer ---- with one exception. The exception being that because He NEVER sinned, He never suffered the guilt of personal sin or the emotional suffering such guilt would inflict. He never suffered the particular pain that results only when one is actually in the state of that sin. (Eg. greed, lust,…)

Jesus did suffer/undergo temptation - eg. the temptation to despair. But because He never succumbed to the temptation, He never experienced the emotional horror of being in a state of despair.

 

[Nita]

Originally Posted by **eddadonkey **

And not only the knowledge of His physical passion and death, but the knowledge of what was in the minds and hearts of all the people around him. Eg. He would have had the emotional sadness and pain of knowing just how much some hated Him - people whom He loved and was dying for. He would have had the emotional pain of knowing the indifference of many. And not just the hatred and indifference of those alive at the time of His passion and death, but all the hatred and indifference down through the ages.

I don’t think we can even fathom how great His suffering was.