Sundays Gospel - Did your priest mention fraternal correction

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In last Sundays Gospel did your Priest in his homily mention fraternal correction?

15 “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every word may be confirmed by the evidence of two or three witnesses. 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. 18 Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 19 Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them.”
 
Actually, no. This week, the sermon was about living the gospel as we help our neighbors from the storm-ravaged areas. Since there are (according to our pastor) about 150 people from the affected areas staying with families in our parish and thousands more needing help in shelters, that is first and foremost on our minds right now.

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Tim
 
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Yes, our priest talked about the importance of both giving and receiving correction.
 
Yes. Talked about going through the proper channels. First go to him on your own. Then go back with one or two more so you have witnesses to what was said. Then go to the church. Said we have a responsibility to correct those who are not acting in accord with the faith and if we do not, their sin is on our hands. If we do what we can, the sin is all theirs.

That led into a discussion of the second reading:
Rom 13:8-10

Brothers and sisters:
Owe nothing to anyone, except to love one another;
for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law.
The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery;
you shall not kill; you shall not steal; you shall not covet, ”
and whatever other commandment there may be,
are summed up in this saying, namely,
“You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
Love does no evil to the neighbor;
hence, love is the fulfillment of the law.

Which then led into the discussion of who our neighbor is and how we can show him love. This of course led into a discussion of Katrina and the many people we now have joining us in the community. Interestingly enough, the people who came to our town were 17 friends who lived close together. They happened to be Baptist and did not know about the day’s reading. They asked us on Sunday to not call them refugees, but to call them the Neighbors. Thought is quite befitting…
 
Yes.

He equated the process to what happens with addicts. First, you approach them on your own; if they don’t listen, you take someone with you (intervention); if they still don’t listen, you tell them they need help (prayer) and treatment (conversion).
 
Yup, twice! (Actually, I attended two Masses this weekend - had to speak at the end of Mass to promote a parish activity). 😛
 
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We had the monsignor at the Mass I went to, and he never refers back to the passage. One of the two parochial vicars refers back to the passage, and the other one does not. So 1 out of 3 will do so.
 
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We had the monsignor at the Mass I went to, and he never refers back to the passage. One of the two parochial vicars refers back to the passage, and the other one does not. So 1 out of 3 will do so.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t that what sets a homily apart from a sermon? A Catholic priest gives a homily, which always refers back to the Gosepel reading, and if the priest is talented, connects the first two readings with the Gospel reading and addresses issues that people in the parish are presently facing. A Protestant pastor gives a sermon, which can be on any topic he or she cares to bring up.

If your priests are not referring back to the passages, what are they talking about when they should be giving a homily?
 
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dulcissima:
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t that what sets a homily apart from a sermon? A Catholic priest gives a homily, which always refers back to the Gosepel reading, and if the priest is talented, connects the first two readings with the Gospel reading and addresses issues that people in the parish are presently facing. A Protestant pastor gives a sermon, which can be on any topic he or she cares to bring up.

If your priests are not referring back to the passages, what are they talking about when they should be giving a homily?
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He cited three examples of people who faced tough decisions and made the right choices. Good moral stories, but had no direct link to any of the readings.

The one priest we have who does refer to the readings and links at least two of them together, is from India. Wonderful person, but I struggle to undersand his English.
 
Our priest started his homily with two stories. One was of a boss of a company who was drinking excessively and was confronted by an employee. He ended up getting help, and both the boss and the company were saved. The other story was of a man who got involved in an extramarital affair. When his marriage ended, all his friends said, “We knew it was coming.” The priest then talked about the need to correct others out of love and out of concern for their well-being. It was a good homily.
 
Did anyone bring up the Gospel passage about removing the beam from your own eye before removing the spinter from another’s eye?

Do we need to differentiate between someone sinning against us vs. knowing that someone is engaged is behaviour that is morally wrong?

If a relative, for instance, is engaged in behaviour that is morally wrong but is not per se a sin against me personally, am I obligated to correct him/her?
 
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If a relative, for instance, is engaged in behaviour that is morally wrong but is not per se a sin against me personally, am I obligated to correct him/her?
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Yup - True Christian charity demands fraternal correction. You have to read the whole passage and not just lift one line out of context.
 
Yep, our priests mentioned it. And I believe that a homily is a reflection on the gospel, and a sermon is a lecture on moral issues. Sin, temptation, etc… So both priests and Protestant ministers can give homilies and sermons. Our priests usually do both.
 
To tell the truth I have wondered what this passage means. What does it mean when it says to tell it to the church? I never felt I properly understood this passage.
I wonder too if in most cases it is proper to descend on someone with some other people as you accuse the person of some offense against you, thinking instead that is it best is best just to pray for the person instead after perhaps speaking to them alone about it. What sort of case does this involve?
 
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