Switching from Diurnal to Roman Office

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I would like to start the switch from my Monastic Diurnal to the Brevarium Romanum. I know this will be difficult because of the Latin but I plan on using the divinumofficium site. I am wondering what the differences between the monastic and the Roman office are. Anyone willing to help? And I know that Summorum Pontificum allows for the use of all books 1962 but aren’t the rubics of the '62 books from '60? In other words, were there changes from '60 to '62? Any other advice?
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FKC
 
There are huge differences between the Monastic and Roman Breviary.

For one, the Roman Breviary recites far fewer psalms in a week, 150 vs about 250 in the Monastic Office (if doing Matins). Matins in the Monastic Office is two nocturnes of 6 psalms. The Roman Breviary has 9 psalms.

In the Monastic Office, Compline is Ps. 4, 90 and 133 every day; in the Roman those psalms are on Sunday only, different psalms are used during the week. In the monastic office, the responsory “in manus tuas” and the gospel canticle Nunc Dimittis (canticle of Symeon) are not said (though since Vatican II some monasteries now include them). Compline was intended to be recited from memory in the dark.

Lauds is different: in the Monastic Office, every day Lauds starts with Ps. 66 in directum, and 50 (with antiphon) and ends with 148-149-150 under one antiphon.

The minor hours are different; in the Monastic, for Terce, Sext and None of Saturday and Monday it’s the different sections of Ps. 118; the rest of the week, it’s invariably the gradual psalms every day (119-127). The reason: they were easy to memorize and so when monks were working in the fields and couldn’t get back to the oratory for the minor hours, they could recite them from memory in the fields. Prime is also different.

Vespers is 5 psalms in the Roman, 4 in the Monastic; in the Roman it includes the gradual psalms plus the same series as Vespers of the Monastic Office. Vespers will be the office in the Roman that most resembles the monastic.

The antiphons will be different because of the practice of dividing the psalms into equal sections, in the Roman Office, that required creating a new series of antiphons.

Finally, the calendars will be different. The Benedictines have their own calendar.

The monastic office is a big challenge. It was never designed for use by the laity in secular life. There are some lighter post-Vatican II schemas (our abbey uses a 150 psalm per week schema and there are a couple of 2-week schemas). But it is more traditional: it’s 1500 years old, whereas the Roman Breviary is only 113 years old. Both are meant to be prayed in Latin only. The English translation of the MD is not liturgical, AFAIK.

Here is the psalm schema for the Monastic Breviary

Here is the psalm scheme for the Roman Breviary

In reality the Roman Breviary resembles the current LOTH a bit more than the Monastic Breviary.

Honestly, my advice is that if you regularly attend an OF Mass then use the current LOTH or one of the current post-Vatican II monastic versions (the traditional Monastic schema still exists largely unchanged in psalm layout except for redistribution of the psalms of Prime, in post-conciliar form). But the LOTH is far more manageable, and if you dig beneath the surface, there are a lot of monastic traditions or options that have been retained.

If you regularly attend an EF Mass, then use a pre-conciliar version in Latin.

The Liturgy is meant to be an organic whole with the Mass as its summit, so praying a pre-conciliar office like the MD or Roman Breviary with the OF Mass would be incongruent as would using a post-conciliar office with the EF Mass. For example the gospel canticle antiphons for the proper of the seasons is anchored to the Mass gospel reading, which is obviously going to be different EF vs OF.

I use the 4-volume LOTH chanted in Latin, daily. When I have a bit more time I use the monastic schema of the abbey I’m affiliated with.
 
Thanks for all of your awesome help!
I use the Monastic Diurnal in Latin now but I’d like to switch to the 1962 Roman Office. Do I understand correctly that the main difference between them is that the Roman Office changes more and has more variance in the Psalms? Also, in other respects, it sounds like maybe the Roman one is easier than the Monastic one, is that a fair assumption to make?
Thanks,
FKC
 
Thanks for all of your awesome help!
I use the Monastic Diurnal in Latin now but I’d like to switch to the 1962 Roman Office. Do I understand correctly that the main difference between them is that the Roman Office changes more and has more variance in the Psalms? Also, in other respects, it sounds like maybe the Roman one is easier than the Monastic one, is that a fair assumption to make?
Thanks,
FKC
Yes it’s a fair assumption. The pre-1910 Roman Office was similar to the monastic. Diocesan clergy had been asking for an easier office for years. Pius X came up with the Roman Breviary (1910-1971). It did considerably simplify the Office, for example cutting out the recitation of about 100 psalms per week by eliminating repetitions. It also lightened Matins by 3 psalms per day. It probably has a bit more in common with the current LOTH than the monastic breviary. In fact it set many of the precedents (and at the time, caused about the same degree of controversy) as the LOTH, for example dividing psalms into equal sections, which required composition of new antiphons for which there was no traditional melody (actually no melody at all… they had to compose neo-Gregorian melodies for them).

I don’t know too many people who manage to pull off the full monastic office every day… in fact most of them that I know that manage it are… well, monks!

There’s also the calendar that’s different (not the seasons but the saints). The Roman will match what you’ll find in EF Masses (FSSP or otherwise).
 
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