Tear down korn poster?

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I would appreciate some advice in this matter. When I go home to visit my parents at Christmas and other times throughout the year, I stay in the guest room. Many years ago, my younger brother, who still lives at home, hung up a lot of posters all around the room, one of which is a poster for the band korn. Somehow, this poster sits on the wall right next to a framed painting of Jesus. Now, I have heard that the songs that korn puts out are bad. I personally know nothing about them, except that one recently converted to Christianity. But as for the others and their band, if what I hear about it is true, I want to tear down that poster, even if it wasn’t right next to an image of Jesus. The fact that it is bothers me even more, and I want to take action, even if it means angering my brother. Is this something that I should do? Would it be right?
 
Nope… don’t tear it down. It’s not your house, it’s not your guest room & it’s not your poster. Talk to your brother about your concerns… maybe he’ll take it down himself but it’s not your property to remove IMHO.
 
All we’re talking about here is taking a poster down off the wall. Since your brother hung it many years ago, and it’s the guest room, not his room, I would just take it down without making a big deal over it. It might be fun to see how long before anyone even noticed.

Just stick it in the closet. If nobody mentions it by the time you visit again, destroy it. If they do notice and get upset, tell them where you put it and they can hang it back up if it’s that big a deal to them. You’ll have a chance to voice your opinion, though.
 
Little Mary:
All we’re talking about here is taking a poster down off the wall. Since your brother hung it many years ago, and it’s the guest room, not his room, I would just take it down without making a big deal over it. It might be fun to see how long before anyone even noticed.

Just stick it in the closet. If nobody mentions it by the time you visit again, destroy it. If they do notice and get upset, tell them where you put it and they can hang it back up if it’s that big a deal to them. You’ll have a chance to voice your opinion, though.
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If you destroy the poster aren’t you stealing? It isn’t yours and you are taking it and doing something that you do not have permission to do.

Why not just have a conversation with your brother? He might want his poster back anyway.
 
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MontereyMatt:
I want to take action, even if it means angering my brother. Is this something that I should do? Would it be right?
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If someone was in your home and “took action” againt the crucifix hanging on the wall in your house because it offended their personal beliefs, would that be right?
 
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deb1:
If you destroy the poster aren’t you stealing? It isn’t yours and you are taking it and doing something that you do not have permission to do.

Why not just have a conversation with your brother? He might want his poster back anyway.
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In this case, I don’t think it would be stealing. Sneaky maybe, but no malicious intent. Remember, it’s several months later now and no one has mentioned/noticed the missing poster. If you prefer, rather than destroy it, point out that it’s been down for months with no one noticing, and then use that as a way to make your feelings known (or in this case, the OP’s).
 
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Timidity:
If someone was in your home and “took action” againt the crucifix hanging on the wall in your house because it offended their personal beliefs, would that be right?
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No, but we are talking about a poster for a rock band here. Not a crucifix.

This poster is in the guest room of the house. It is not in the younger brother’s own bedroom. Furthermore, it was hung several years ago. Could be that the poster hanger no longer cares whether the poster is up or not. If MontereyMatt is hesitant to bring it up at first, he could just take the poster down and see if anyone notices.

Or, he could just voice his opinion. I am under the impression that the MontereyMatt is hesitant to do this. How come?
 
Little Mary:
In this case, I don’t think it would be stealing. Sneaky maybe, but no malicious intent. Remember, it’s several months later now and no one has mentioned/noticed the missing poster. If you prefer, rather than destroy it, point out that it’s been down for months with no one noticing, and then use that as a way to make your feelings known (or in this case, the OP’s).
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Why not simply speak to his brother and ask his opinion? I do not like underhanded actions. Personally, I prefer to be straight forward. We have to be ambassadors of our religion and his actions could have an effect on how his brother views Christianity. It is better to be honest then to do something that could be construed as sneaky.

Just for any that are curious this is the history of the lead singer as far as I can deduce from the internet. Jonathan Davis came from an abusive home, in which he experienced sexual abuse. In high school he was made fun of and called a fag. After high school, he went to school to become a mortician. He has said in interviews that he still has nightmares because one of the bodies that he fixed was that of a baby that had died from sexual abuse. Because of his unique vocals the members of what would one day be Korn asked him to join thier band. He marketed teen angst and became rich. His first marriage failed when he admitted to his wife that he had engaged in numerous affairs. His second marriage is to a porn star, Devon Davis, and he is either considering or is now directing her in porn movies.

It could be that your brother is attracted to the teen angst that is depicted in the Korn music. If so, then asking him what he likes about this band and why might open a conversation with your brother. The Korn poster could be a means to witness to him. You could also point out how empty John Davis’s life sounds.
 
Little Mary:
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Or, he could just voice his opinion. I am under the impression that the MontereyMatt is hesitant to do this. How come?
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I am curious also, as to why he wouldn’t simply talk to his parents.
 
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deb1:
Why not simply speak to his brother and ask his opinion? I do not like underhanded actions. Personally, I prefer to be straight forward. We have to be ambassadors of our religion and his actions could have an effect on how his brother views Christianity. It is better to be honest then to do something that could be construed as sneaky.

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I don’t disagree, deb, but we are talking about a poster on a wall in a family home, hung several years ago by a younger brother. If I was MontereyMatt, I would take the poster down and be done with it.
 
Little Mary:
No, but we are talking about a poster for a rock band here. Not a crucifix.
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That doesn’t make a difference. The situation is the same–it’s someone going into someone else’s house and imposing their personal morality on the home owners without their (name removed by moderator)ut. It is amazingly rude, to say the least. He doesn’t live there; he has no say what the owners chose to display in their own home.
 
Thanks, all, for the (name removed by moderator)ut on this matter. I guess I should just talk to my brother about it first. I doubt he will think much of my intentions, but still, you’re right, that would be a good first step. I guess, if he doesn’t listen, I can always talk to my parents about it, since it’s their place. Again, I don’t know much about this band. What little I have heard has been bad. Teen angst isn’t anything new, but as we all know, some of those heavy metal bands go way beyond that. And I disagree with equating this poster to a crucifix. No, I wouldn’t like someone to take down a crucifix, because that person would never be justified in doing so. However, depending on what messages a certain band puts out, and depending on which room of the house it is in, I think taking down a poster of that band could be justified. It’s ultimately up to my parents, I suppose. I guess I should then restate my question: are the messages put out by this band bad enough to warrant asking my parents and brother for the poster to be removed? I find heavy metal repugnant, personally, and I never listen to it. I am aware that this question - the Catholic’s view of heavy metal - has been discussed in previous topics (although I don’t recall coming away with a definitive answer as to what to think of it). In fact, that is where I read a negative reference to this band. If korn is putting out really bad stuff, I want that poster off the wall for sure. :mad: After all, it’s not like I am bursting into my brother’s room and dictating what he should have on his walls; this is a guest room, where I stay when I am home, and therefore I feel I should have a bit more say in the matter.
 
Little Mary:
I don’t disagree, deb, but we are talking about a poster on a wall in a family home, hung several years ago by a younger brother. If I was MontereyMatt, I would take the poster down and be done with it.
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I understand what you are saying but this isn’t his home. It is his parents home and he should talk to them first.
 
This thread has allowed me to reflect on my own relationship with my parents, regardless of the fact that I have not been living at home for 15 years now… I am thankful that I am still comfortable enough when I go home to visit to feel as if I am at home even though I have a home of my own elsewhere.

We are not talking about just anybody’s house and we are talking about a rock band poster. Those two factors make a difference, IMO. I would never, ever do what I have suggested in anyone else’s house, or if the concerns were different, more ‘serious’ if you will, than described here. My parents’ house is and always will be “home”. They’d be heartbroken if I ever thought otherwise.

Nonetheless, there are as many ways to handle this situation as there are posters, I suppose. I’m sure MontereyMatt will do the right thing for himself and his family.
 
Ask your brother if he wouldn’t mind taking it down. Maybe compromise by replacing it with Korn’s former guitarist Brian “Head” Welch’s poster, because he quit the band to become a Christian!

See his link here.
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