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I have been away from my computer for a very long time (it took a surge), but now I am using my laptop that my school issues me.

I would first like to thank you all for helping me out with a previous situation (family not believing me about my calling to the priesthood). I read every response and respected each one. And this leads to my apology. I am sorry for the way my friend acted. Me and my friend Doug use this name equally, and Doug, for some reason, told our password to our other friend. He got on one day, read the thread about my problem, replied to it in VERY vulgar and unacceptable ways. If you don´t believe me, look at the difference in grammar. He´s a little too lazy to type the proper way, so check out the differences.

But a note for those who said I was young, naive, immature, and the like: sure, I´m 16 years old, but my calling is 100% clear to me. While I know that you were just trying to look at the situation in every single way possible, I must assure you that my calling couldn´t be anymore clearer.

Now, onto the current situation. As suggested by numerous people, I talked to my dad about everything. He now believes me when I tell him that I am called to be a priest.

One day at dinner (we had the whole family in attendance), we were talking about stuff, joking around and all, all that good family stuff. Somehow we got onto the topic of me and my younger brother (younger by one year) eventually/possibly having wives and kids. Well, my sister-in-law always says that I´m lazy, so she harped on me that I´d actually have to get a job and earn money, instead of asking my parents for everything (please note, I do not ask my parents for everything; instead of an allowance every other week, I get stuff every now and then). Well, understanding my calling, I stared and my plate and replied monotonously, “Yeah, Shelley, wife and kids are exactly what I´m gonna have when I become a priest.”

Well, that was like throwing a grenade into an oil well. My younger brother came to my protection and said something, but I don´t remember. As I said before, she just went off the charts on the make-fun-of-Alex-meter.´

I don´t remember exactly what she said, but it was something like “What? Are you kidding me? You´ll be the worst priest God´s ever seen. (laughs) You won´t even work, you´re homily each Sunday will a request for money!”

Now, by this time, I was pretty angry, not just because she was mocking me, but because, in essence, she was mocking God and the priesthood. Worst of all, my mom looked at me while SHE was LAUGHING. I ever so slightly shook my head as if to say “please, don´t laugh,” but she must´ve ignored me, because she kept laughing. And so did Shelley.

Shelley kept laughing and rambling, “You´re parish is gonna hate you, because all you´ll do up there is beg for money, and they won´t give it to you. Hahahaha, they´ll probably want to kick you out of the priesthood. Haha, you´ll probably die of starvation, because you won´t want to get another job to make a living. And when you get to heaven, God´s gonna laugh at you and turn you away, because he doesn´t want priests like you in the Church.”

At this point, I just about had it, I really did. I wanted to get up from the table, throw something at her, and just leave. Probably walk over to Doug´s house or something (he lives about ten short blocks down from me). My mom kept laughing, and so did Shelley, but my dad, who actually respects me, just looked down at his plate and kept shaking his head at the comments.

I don´t know what´s going on. It´s like, when something gets better, something else goes bad. I don´t know what to make of all this. Am I some how being tested? Maybe an endurance test to see how much I can handle? I feel horrible about this stuff all the time, like everything somehow is aimed at me, primarily because of my calling.

But I need advice. I need to know what to do and how to handle this situation, and others like it.

–Thanks, AsStAnselmPrays
 
Am I some how being tested?
Yup.

There was some saint who wrote about the interior life and his first sentence said that when someone first discens a call to lead a holy life, a thousand arrows go up from the world to shoot him down. Wish I could remember the saint.

Scott
 
If your calling is to the vocation of priesthood thats fine. One thing though, your 16 years old at the moment. Whats wrong with getting a job until you go to seminary?

-D
 
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Darrel:
If your calling is to the vocation of priesthood thats fine. One thing though, your 16 years old at the moment. Whats wrong with getting a job until you go to seminary?

-D
I hear ya. At the time, I did have a job. My uncle came down from South Carolina and I helped him build staircases and put trim in a house and some other stuff. Also, I´m too consumed with my schoolwork this year. 2 Honors classes and an AP US History class. There´s a Publix literally right down the street, and I´ll most likely get a job there, but not until I get situated with school and the daily grind of work.
 
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AsStAnselmPrays:
I hear ya. At the time, I did have a job. My uncle came down from South Carolina and I helped him build staircases and put trim in a house and some other stuff. Also, I´m too consumed with my schoolwork this year. 2 Honors classes and an AP US History class. There´s a Publix literally right down the street, and I´ll most likely get a job there, but not until I get situated with school and the daily grind of work.
Hehe,

Publix is a term I havent heard in a long time. I used to live in Tequesta. Good luck with the school and the Job. Keep on praying about that vocation.

-D
 
Wow, I don’t know what your original post was because I am new on here but what an interesting dilema to be struggling with family AGAINST becoming a priest. Do you have anyone who is supportive? a priest or another family member or friend? Your character is still being formed so shame on them for judging you to be “lazy”- they are VERY toxic. These are definately arrows! Pray for them. And ask God to reveal any character defects that may affect you being a good priest. We all have those in all our vocations! 😦
What things are you doing to prepare yourself pre seminary? Do you know the apologetics of the Church so you will be a strong, FAITHFUL priest? Do you know what order of priest? I see you live in Florida-Ave Maria University has a phenomenal pre-theo. program. Are you praying about what direction to go in?
God Bless you
 
Jesus said that a prophet is never accepted in his hometown. That could be what you are now finding out. It’s good you have your dad on your side.

Most of us are kind of goofy when we are 16. If my younger brother had told me that God was calling him to be a pastor (he’s an Evangelical) when he was 16 and I was 18, I’m sorry to say that I might have made fun of him too. But now that we are both in our 30’s, I have nothing but respect for him. (Of course, I still pray for his conversion to Catholicism).

Hang in there and continue to follow God’s lead. You don’t have to prove anything to anyone but Him. Try not to succumb to anger when they shoot these arrows. They will see God’s love in you, eventually, and back off. If you respond in anger, you will prove them right in their eyes.
 
We had a priest who filled in one week for our regular pastor. He said that at his church there was once a young boy, about 8 or 9 years old who came up to him and told him that one day he wanted to be a priest. His mother overheard what he said and cut in on the conversation and said “Over my dead body.” This was only within the last year this happened he said.

She wanted her son to get married and have children of his own one day, not be “shackled” to a celibate life. It’s this kind of ignorance that runs rampant through many Catholics (and non-catholics). Read 1 Corinthians 7:25-35…marriage isn’t looked down upon, but a life dedicated completely to the Lord is all the more fullfilling. Not everyone is called to this service obviously, or else the human race wouldn’t continue 🙂

Parents over the last few years have so discouraged their children; like the religious life is such a horrible thing. The priest told us the we must pray everyday for those who feel they have a call on their life to serve the Lord. We must also pray for those who try to hinder this call.

This same priest filled in the last 2 weeks at our parish since our pastor was on vacation. Each time we do intentions, he always prays for 2 things…the service men and women in hostile areas and those who are called to serve our country no matter where they may be (He’s retired AF himself) and also for more people to respond to the call on their lives for the priesthood or other religious vocations.

Yes you’re only 16. But take heart, St. Dominic Savio was only 12 when he entered school to be a priest. This boy truly loved the Lord. You should read up on his life.

Read Romans 5:1-5 for some more encouragement. We were never guaranteed an easy walk with the Lord, especially if we are called to the religious life. It will be all the harder because there are powers that don’t want us to fulfill our Godly purpose and possibly be the instrument used to save souls through the preaching of the Gospel.

Psalm 28:7 The LORD is my strength and my shield; My heart trusts in Him, and I am helped; Therefore my heart exults, And with my song I shall thank Him.

God bless you as you respond to his call on your life.
 
The first thing you need to do is have your friend, Doug, sign up and get his own user name. Two members are not supposed to use the same name, it’s in the rules in order to avoid situations like yours. Make sure you change your password.

I think that the mean way in which your aunt treated you is wrong, and your mom laughing didn’t help… and your dad just sititng there and not asking them to be more respectful was wrong.

I can remember being 16 and not being taken seriously about alot of things. I can also recall being treated with actual violence, hitting, being dragged down the stairs by my feet by one of my parents, my face hit the wooden corner of the bottom step, and then my cut and bruise on my face became the topic of discussion in my English class, who did it to me, etc. I was so embarassed. One of my aquaintences said “It was probably her mom again…” My head was spinning because it was my dad and I had been depending on him being the “good guy” in my life. The teacher asked me in front of the whole class what happened. I ran out of the classroom and hid in the bathroom, while the teacher laughed. That night at track practice, I didnt’ know that I had rug burns on my back from the carpet on the stairs, and everyone in the locker room started asking what happened to my back. I quit track. I had lots of friends but only one who knew the truth of what I was going through at home. The thing is, it could have been worse, much worse.

There are people being tortured right now because they want to own a Bible. There are Chrisitans in Africa being sold as slaves. There are orphans rotting away in orphanages, unloved, uncared for. There are children in America who don’t have food, or a home, or parents to love them. There are millions of people starving and dying of aids.

This is how I got through my life at home, I remembered that it could always be alot worse. My parents could have been addicted to drugs, or not providing food or nice clothes. We lived in a nice home. They loved me. They had volitile tempers and my mom sufffered from untreated depression. Was I abused? They acted abusive at times, but usually they weren’t too bad. On the surface to the rest of the world they were wonderful parents, only my friend and I knew how bad it was. My siblings watched some of it but they werent’ treated like that so didn’t understand it.

Nobody can take your peace with Christ away, nobody can take away your choice to love and be loved by Jesus. You have a choice to treat a world so filled with anger and hate with life- changing love. The disciples did it, Saints did it, Mother Teresa, Pope John Paul II. You are called to do it to, and you can do it.

I know that at your age you feel emotions with much intensity. Just be patient, take a deep breath and realize that you are the one responsible for your life. Your parents are never going to be perfect. You are becomming an adult and will be making your own decisions in life. For myself, I had college to look forward to and I left for my campus student job the day after graduation. I married a wonderful man and have three great children and I am the parent now, making the choice to never treat my children badly, to show them love, teach them. To value them above all other things in this world, to see Christ in them. The anger and pain that was vented on me as a teenager is long gone. Love is the answer, it gives us peace. The closer you draw yourself to God, the more you receive these gifts.

I hope this post helps you to see that, no matter how painful your life can be, you *always *have the option to show love, compassion and forgiveness. I was called to the lay vocation of wife and mother. You feel you are called to be a priest. Be strong, don’t let these emotional distractions from your family or the world around you get in the way. Focus on your prayer life, go to Eucahristic Adoration. Read all the theological works and lives of the saints that you can. Spend your time volunteering for your Parish. You don’t have to wait to become a priest to live your life for Christ , to be His hands in the world. This will prepare you for the priesthood and also be a witness to your family, showing this level of maturity may even eventually lead to them taking you more seriously as a man and as a future priest.

It is easy for the people who have known us since childhood to hear the child who has become an adolescent say “I want to be a priest” and not take it seriously because they need to see some real maturity and personal spiritual discipline… other wise it may sound to them like the 5 yr old who says “I wanna be a zookeeper when I grow up” You are at the edge of childhood and becomming a man. Take it on and deepen your faith even more than you thought possible.Fight the pain you feel with prayer and love. Know that you can make a difference in the world to show God’s love to others, it can transform the people around you.
 
Thanks everyone for your help. And about Doug getting a new name, I think he’s working on it. However, we didn’t really expect that our other friend would somehow get into our account, but thanks for the heads up.

And about my dad not doing anything…there has been a lot of hostility between my sister-in-law and my father. That’s why he didn’t say anything. So, no, my dad was doing what was best. I’m learning to take the arrows like Saint Sebastian (took him a while to die). It just hurts, because I’d expect my family to support me, and not to make fun of me, or at the least, not defend me. But, I guess that’s what I get when my sister-in-law is uneducated and ignorant.
 
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AsStAnselmPrays:
I hear ya. At the time, I did have a job. My uncle came down from South Carolina and I helped him build staircases and put trim in a house and some other stuff. Also, I´m too consumed with my schoolwork this year. 2 Honors classes and an AP US History class. There´s a Publix literally right down the street, and I´ll most likely get a job there, but not until I get situated with school and the daily grind of work.
I admire your dedication to your studies! I WISH I could go back to high school and focus more on that!

If you’re in honors and AP classes and doing well you’re not lazy. I don’t know your whole story, came in on this post, but you will get opposition when you tell people about your calling.

Maybe you have a calling, maybe not. It will take some time to discern it. My uncle thought he had a calling in high school. He married, had six kids and was a wonderful husband and father. He was a devout Catholic and I believe that’s what kept his family so close to each other.

Follow where the Lord leads you.
 
I believe in the America a few junior seminaries still exist. (They used to be much more common than they are now) They are for young men 13+ that have the calling. Many good priests were formed in these seminaries. Think “High School,” but studies more focused on preparing you for your vocation as a priest.
 
My nephew has been saying he wants to be a priest since he was nine years old. He’s now going to a school run by the Legionairres. He’s 14? years old. There are other young people like yourself who believe they have a calling. Perhaps your pastor could help you find a penpal in one of these high schools that lead up to seminary. Someone your own age who deals with similar problems may be a blessing to be able to talk to.
 
I understand the dilemma you have. I come from a family of 5 kids (I’m the youngest by 16 years) and up until about 2 years ago I was discerning the priesthood. My parents are Catholic and raised the kids that way, but two of my siblings are not. I get tons of flak about even considering becoming a priest, both from siblings and, more frustrating, from my parents! My mom has been totally against the idea: “Why waste your brains?”, “Why get a PhD then, why not drop it?”, “It would be foolish”; my brother always made fun of the celibacy part and continually asks me to this day whether I’ve slept with anyone (no, fyi!); my dad made some mocking comments, too.

However, when I got down to it with my dad one-on-one, he was much more open. He said I’ve got to consider where God is calling me, because it’s not a career, it’s a vocation. Sometimes dads put on a hard image in front of others when maybe they shouldn’t, but they can be soft when others aren’t around.

Mom means well, but she’s still focused on the aspect of wasting education or potential. I always tell her, “Would you rather have a stupid person giving your sermons, advising you, and managing your parish?” 😃 Also, a great many scientists, doctors, engineers, writers, etc. were priests or religious. Heck, in a time of so many ethical debates, I hope our priests are well-educated! Your honors and AP curriculum is great, and keep up the good work; if you end up in the priesthood, those types of classes will be of great benefit to you, if not for the specific info you learn then for the ways they teach you to think.

Siblings…well, that’s tough. The best you can do is stick to your guns and be cordial. I’m 22 and my siblings are all between 40 and 44, so they are in “parent” mode with me, trying to give me advice all the time. Some is good, but some is not. I know the feeling of always being “tested” by those closest to you. Although I’ve discovered my call is to marriage (once the right girl is put in my life), I still had to discern it. You’re on the right track, and good luck.
 
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RockAndHoops:
My mom has been totally against the idea: “Why waste your brains?”, “Why get a PhD then, why not drop it?”, “It would be foolish”;

Mom means well, but she’s still focused on the aspect of wasting education or potential. I always tell her, “Would you rather have a stupid person giving your sermons, advising you, and managing your parish?” 😃 Also, a great many scientists, doctors, engineers, writers, etc. were priests or religious.
I wish I could introduce your mom to my college anatomy prof. He’s a Jesuit priest (one of the good ones- yes, there are still good Jesuits), and holds his PhD. in biology. He was 75 years old when I took his class, and the guy’s mind was as sharp as a tack. I’m still firmly convinced that he knows everything about vertebrate anatomy that can be known, plus, he knew all of our names by the second week of classes. He’s about 80 now, and still teaching the students who are lucky enough to take his classes.

It was a unique experience being at a Jesuit university, one for which I am very grateful, and a little homesick even after 4 years away. Yes, I hear all of the bashing of the Jesuits-and agree with it in some cases- but on a daily basis I encountered good faithful clergy (along with various nuns of the Sisters of Mercy, and a lot of orthodox lay profs) who had as their life mission not only the care of our souls but the education of our minds.
 
It still hurts me that there is a horrible lack of support for me in my family. I’ll get through it though, but I can’t hide the fact that it hurts.

Thanks for the support, everyone. Your words of encouragement really do help me out, whether you think they will or not.
 
Yeah, the hurt doesn’t go away easily. That is a rough part of the discernment process: people who are against you. But hey, at least here you’ve got a network of people who are supportive and think that a religious vocation IS worthwhile!

Bu the way, SeekerJen, that’s pretty funny what you say about Jesuits: I went to a Jesuit high school and experienced the same things. Some Jesuits get a bad rap, others live right up to it. I find myself wishing I had some of the overall religious element back in my grad school now. What I wouldn’t give to hear our senior year English prof again: he was amazingly smart and cared for our well-being, both mental and spiritual.
 
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