The 6 Essential Needs of Mankind

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“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

Matthew 25 : 34-36

From this light, there are 6 essential needs that are owed to our fellow man under threat of the most severe penalty. These are food, drink, shelter, clothing, health care, and justice.

I believe this means that we owe these essential needs as individuals. It is a personal responsibility. I also believe that it is proper to orient society to meeting these essential needs for fellow man. God has done so by making these a requirement for membership in his society. We should follow suit. In this light, I will support a government which supports providing a safety net that provides these 6 essential needs to those that cannot provide for themselves.
 
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JamesATyler said:
I will support a government which supports providing a safety net that provides these 6 essential needs to those that cannot provide for themselves.
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Which government is arguing for zero safey net?
 
adgloriam said:
And, regrettably, prison visits.
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I derive justice from the prison visit. It is the Lord that is in prison in that text. He does not belong in prison so it is right to visit him. I think it means that justice is what should be given.
 
I don’t know. American government often debates what should be provided, so I will support these social systems.
 
“All you who did not vote for massive debt spending, subsidized single-motherhood, and stifling taxation, go into the fire and be lost forever. All you who voted for Bernie Sanders, come into Heaven and join us in a Soviet Paradise forevermore.”
Stalin 4: 20
 
The american government has a welfare system at present. Who is arguing the abolish it and let people who can’t provide for themselves starve?
 
I thought Jesus was clear? Do you think I have misinterpreted?
 
But your original statement is meaningless then. You said you want to vote for a government that provides these things and it seems all the parties are in favour of it. You may have well said “I’m going to vote for a politician that breathes”
 
I’ve never met anyone who isn’t OK with having a support system for the truly needy.

The problem and negative view comes from when you see people buying grocery carts full of junk food on EBT that weigh 350 pounds.

The problem with the modern welfare state, is that it has destroyed the nuclear family. Free sex, free housing, and free birth control has taken away all incentive for people to get married and have kids the way it was meant to be done.

Single motherhood is so rampant because the state has told women they don’t need to be discerning with their partners, or wait til marriage, because even if they get knocked up they can either murder the child or if they choose to keep it get aid for caring it. The welfare state has made fatherhood, at least financially, obsolete.

And we wonder why our society is full of so many broken people.
 
If you don’t see any point in it then I guess we can just leave it at that.
 
You’re saying you are for something, i’m just asking you to tell me who is against it. It seems no body is and that’s the definition of arguing a strawman.
 
I heard that it was considered unfair to provide too much oversight to what people buy with EBT. I don’t know the reasoning behind it though.
 
A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent’s argument, while refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be “attacking a straw man”.
 
Not yet 😂

That one was more of a cultural reference than government program.
 
stupidisasstupiddoes said:
A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent’s argument, while refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be “attacking a straw man”.
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I wasn’t refuting anyone. I was only stating what i support. You refuted based on the premise that I was making a refutation. It is you who are attacking a straw man. Lol. Did I just insult myself?
 
Yeah I’ve heard that argument too. It’s apparently more fair to let people who have never had a good example set for them as far as eating habits destroy their bodies with crap food.

Maybe I’m just not that “nice” of a person overall. I’m a firm believer if you aren’t paying for it you take what you’re given and be grateful. And I think a lot of people who are generational recipients of government aid would benefit from having someone make decisions for them until they can make better decisions under our current way of doing things.

I personally think it would make more sense if we just had a universal basic income, untaxed, for people who need it. i.e. 20k a year. If you work part time and make 10k a year we make up the difference with the extra 10k as a society.

If you get a job and start making 21k a year then your on your own. It would be much more efficient and less ripe for fraud.

I also think people that make less than 30k a year shouldn’t be subject to income taxes. But everyone who makes over that should pay the same percentage.
 
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