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Hi, I am a Latin Rite Catholic, but I came back to the Catholic first through Byzantium before returning back to my patrimony. I am contemplating joining the Order of the Friar Preachers [The Dominicans] and they are known for not necessarily having their own “spirituality” to them, rather they are a pretty balanced order whose spirituality is both Active and Contemplative, but I was curious to know what Religious Order in the Latin part of the Church best reflects the spirituality of Byzantine Catholics? (Benedictine, Carmelite, Carthusian, Trappist, Franciscan) PICK Only One that you’d say best reflects.

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Hi, I am a Latin Rite Catholic, but I came back to the Catholic first through Byzantium before returning back to my patrimony. I am contemplating joining the Order of the Friar Preachers [The Dominicans] and they are known for not necessarily having their own “spirituality” to them, rather they are a pretty balanced order whose spirituality is both Active and Contemplative, but I was curious to know what Religious Order in the Latin part of the Church best reflects the spirituality of Byzantine Catholics? (Benedictine, Carmelite, Carthusian, Trappist, Franciscan) PICK Only One that you’d say best reflects.

I have posted this question in 2 other Thread Categories because I am not sure which is best category to post.
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Eastern Catholic monastics and nuns exist, but in contrast, the western tradition has orders with rules.

A person’s Church sui iuris determines the liturgical rites used, are you thinking of public or private practices?
 
Private practices.

I pray the Rosary, but I also love the Jesus Prayer on the Chotki too, so whats the most similar Western Catholic religious order that best reflects or is most in touch with Eastern Catholics.

I just want to know so when I go to read books from that particular Order, I know I am getting something as agreeable as possible to the Eastern Catholic tradition. For example, as I stated above I know St. Dominic who founded the Order of Friar Preachers carried a Copy of St. Matthews Gospel and St. John Cassians The Conferences wherever he went, I also know that St. Dominic was also an Augustinian Canon as well before finding the Order.

BUT since The Dominicans in their Private Spiritual Lives also have their own spirituality [some more contemplative than others], I was looking for that which exists in the Western half of the Church which is the most analogous version to the Eastern half. I just want peoples opinions as to which one they think it may be, and I will take that consensus and explore it further.
 
The Order of Saint Benedict is still used in the (Byzantine Rite) Eastern Orthodox Church in in a few places.
 
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Private practices.

I pray the Rosary, but I also love the Jesus Prayer on the Chotki too, so whats the most similar Western Catholic religious order that best reflects or is most in touch with Eastern Catholics.

I just want to know so when I go to read books from that particular Order, I know I am getting something as agreeable as possible to the Eastern Catholic tradition. For example, as I stated above I know St. Dominic who founded the Order of Friar Preachers carried a Copy of St. Matthews Gospel and St. John Cassians The Conferences wherever he went, I also know that St. Dominic was also an Augustinian Canon as well before finding the Order.

BUT since The Dominicans in their Private Spiritual Lives also have their own spirituality [some more contemplative than others], I was looking for that which exists in the Western half of the Church which is the most analogous version to the Eastern half. I just want peoples opinions as to which one they think it may be, and I will take that consensus and explore it further.
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Eastern Orthodox monks are normally a layman not a cleric and the highest rank is great schema which is normally life in total seclusion in perpetual prayer and contemplation. Contemplative orders have similar elements.
 
The Carmelites reflect the Byzantine Spirituality the best. A lot of their spirituality is Eastern, and they are more mystical. Dominicans have in times past represented the antithesis of Eastern spirituality (mostly the 15th-early 20th centuries). Franciscans represent a balance between active and contempletive, and can be quite eastern (Bonaventure and Duns Scotus were well received by Greek theologians). In fact, the last two bishops of the Eparchy of Parma were Franciscans.

In Christ,
Adam
 
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The Carmelites reflect the Byzantine Spirituality the best. A lot of their spirituality is Eastern, and they are more mystical. Dominicans have in times past represented the antithesis of Eastern spirituality (mostly the 15th-early 20th centuries). Franciscans represent a balance between active and contempletive, and can be quite eastern (Bonaventure and Duns Scotus were well received by Greek theologians). In fact, the last two bishops of the Eparchy of Parma were Franciscans.

In Christ,
Adam
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That’s interesting and good to know, thank you! I had discounted Dominicans because of one terrible experience, seems my caution was not unfounded.
 
A dear friend who was a sometimes altar server at Our Lady of Fatima Byzantine/Greek Catholic Church in San Francisco is entering his third year as a student Brother with the Dominicans here. Several years ago a Dominican was ordained to the priesthood who is Ukranian Catholic by Baptism. While still a deacon he served as a deacon a number of times at OLF, and he served his first Divine Liturgy there. The Melkites had a mission for years which used the Dominican St. Albert’s Priory for their Divine Liturgy. One of their Province, Fr. Brendan McAnerney, O.P., is the pastor of St George Melkite Church in Sacramento.

You might look into the Contemplatives of St Joseph in South San Francisco. Their founder Fr Vito Perrone concelbrated at OLF and then was the parish priest and administer for a number of years. Fr. Joseph Homick, also with the Contemplatives, is the former abbot of Holy Transfiguration Monastery/Monks of Mt. Tabor. A third priest with the Contemplative, Fr. James Lane, was pastor of St. Anne Byzantine Catholic Church in San Luis Obispo. Fr. Joseph and Fr James are both Eastern Catholics.

Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco has asked the Order’s founder, Fr. Vito Perrone, and Fr. Joseph Homick to teach other priests of the Archdiocese how to celebrate the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite Mass, which they do with enthusiasm.

Chaldean Mass at St Albert’s Dominican Priory. The Chaldean seminary has sent their seminarians to study at the Dominican School of Philosophy and Theology for certain classes. When they come they live at the Priory for that semester or year. An Assyrian Orthodox priest has also been taking classes at DSPT and staying with the Friars on the days when he has classes. The OCA pastor of the parish nearby frequently spends Sunday recreation at the Priory.

Melkite Divine Liturgy at St. Albert Priory.
 
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