The Baptist denomination: what is the proper descriptive name?

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But seriously,

As far as Baptists not believing in Mary being the Mother of God, I agree with them on that. Remember, I’m not Catholic nor anti-Catholic, so please don’t flame me! Alot of the people I work with are Baptist and we were talking about this not too long ago. Mary is seen as the mother of Jesus, son of God, but yet they are all the same (Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit). So in one sense, no, Mary is not the Mother of God b/c she had a child of flesh and blood and God is not limited by that (I hope that made since). But I do see where Catholics believe she is the Mother of God.
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Ultimately, all Catholic teachings on Mary are teachings about Christ and who christ is in relation to us (creatures). The teaching on Mary as Mother of God, is not intended to teach that we MUST venerate Mary.
Rrather it was defined to clairify that you cannot separate the flesh from the nature (so to speak). That Christ was fully GOD from the moment of his conception. That God condecended to become a 1-celled being inside the womb of a real Mother. That Christ had a relationship to Mary that was indeed a Mother-Son releationship. That Christ was indeed fully human. Mary is the mother of the ***incarnate ***God.

You said “she had a child of flesh and blood and God is not limited by that.” I say AMEN. But God choose to be limited by that when he became incarnate in the womb of his earthly mother. This is the beauty of the incarnation, that I don’t think any Baptist would deny. God so loved us that He BECAME one of us. He JOINED himself to humanity. He had a mother. He was part of a human family. He even had a man he called daddy. Christ did not come out of the womb full grown. He was an infant, toddler, child, adolescent before he was an adult. If Jesus called Mary Mom, I have no problem with calling her the Mother of God. For Jesus is God.

God love you for at least being willing to accept that Catholics can understand this and not be Mary worshipers!
 
wabrams,

You agree that Mary was the mother of Jesus Christ don’t you?

Do you believe in the Trinity? Yes or No.

It seems to follow then, that if Mary is the mother of Jesus, and Jesus is the second person of the Trinity…then Jesus is God; therefore, Mary has to be the mother of God!

Of course Catholics say that God chose Mary to be the earthly vessel by which Jesus Christ could become truely a Man-God. He was truely God and was truly Man.:love:
 
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rjmporter:
Who is the bearer of a child if not his mother. I am saying that by refuting Theotokos, protestants must follow that to a particular heresy. To say, they don’t like the translation is an appeal to emotion and ignores the argument.

Can one successfully argue that “bearer of a child” <>(does not equal) “mother of a child” (absent obvious 20th century horrors)?
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All Christians are theotokos (little ‘t’): we all bear Christ in our souls, in our hearts. To distinguish Mary as “the Theotokos” or as “the Christ-Bearer” is to affirm her blessed uniqueness without implying more of her than is true.
 
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lepanto:
Catholics = Catholicism,

Lutherans = Lutheranism,

Mormons = Mormonism,

Anglicans = Anglicanism

Baptists = Baptism???

What is the noun used to describe their denomination???
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Generally the full denominational name. ie: Southern Baptist, Northern Baptist, etc.
 
Come on, guys. I still haven’t gotten a straight answer. :confused:

Please don’t hijack the thread. 😦
 
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lepanto:
Come on, guys. I still haven’t gotten a straight answer. :confused:

Please don’t hijack the thread. 😦
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I gave you a straight answer. Catholics subscribe to Catholicism, Lutherans to Lutheranism, and Baptists to Nestorianism.
 
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Apologia100:
I gave you a straight answer. Catholics subscribe to Catholicism, Lutherans to Lutheranism, and Baptists to Nestorianism.
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Well, OK, but what word do the Baptists use? Baptism? :confused:
 
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lepanto:
Come on, guys. I still haven’t gotten a straight answer. :confused:
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The Denomination is Baptist (like my denomination is Catholic).

Their theology is “Baptist theology”.

Some might be inclined to say “fundamentalism” but I disagree.
 
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Timidity:
The Denomination is Baptist (like my denomination is Catholic).

Their theology is “Baptist theology”.

Some might be inclined to say “fundamentalism” but I disagree.
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More accurately is Evangelicalism, since not all Baptists are Fundamentalist.
 
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lepanto:
Well, OK, but what word do the Baptists use? Baptism? :confused:
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are you really still asking this question?? they are baptists. you call them baptist. it is baptist theology. it doesn’t have to be consistent with the pattern of “ism” (i.e. lutheranism , anglicanism , catholicism ). if you call them baptist you will be fine. if you call their theology baptist or evangelical you should be fine. why not ask a baptist (of which i am a former)? they are not nestorianists as some try to pin on them through large leaps in logic, they are Christians who do not have the complete deposit of faith. they believe Jesus was fully God and fully man from conception to ascension. just because they don’t want to give mary the title “mother of God” they still ascribe to “God-bearer” meaning they know she gave birth to God here on earth but they mistakenly think that “mother of God” means they have to make the jump (which some think catholics make) to her preceding God which we all know is not true.
 
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bryang:
Generally the full denominational name. ie: Southern Baptist, Northern Baptist, etc.
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So how many Baptist sects are there? Oh, I better tell you as of 2:53 pm on 10-7-04 so you know when to stop counting the new ones.
 
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