The Catholic-Political Breakfast Club

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A not entirely serious look at different Catholic approaches to politics.
  1. The Benedictine Option
    The world is a mess and we need to break away from it, create a parallel society where Catholics can thrive.
    Objections -
    Won’t this prevent us from bringing more people to God?
    Seems impractical, how / where would we create this parallel society?
  2. The Moral Majority
    Team up with evangelicals to get political power and get good outcomes by sheer numbers.
    Objections -
    Are the sacrifices we have to make worth it?
    Does this group actually have much power, or do they only appear to have power because their goals are occasionally aligned with the alt-right?
  3. The Bleeding Hearts
    Team up with the left to fight for social justice. If we have to be persecuted for the sake of the kingdom, so be it.
    Objections -
    This group has a tendency to align with the left even on issues that the Church opposes, like gay marriage.
    If we let the left wipe out the Church, we won’t be able to do any good at all.
  4. The Thomists
    Convince people to do good by using reasoned arguments that don’t rely on them sharing our religion.
    Objections -
    When has this EVER worked?
    If people know you’re religious, they’ll ignore what you have to say as coming from a religious point of view even if your argument doesn’t rely on religion.
  5. The Lazy Option
    Maybe the world will sort itself out, not because of the power of the moral majority or the clever arguments of the thomists but just because people see the damage being done by the left and decide to put a stop to it.
    Objection -
    If the world doesn’t sort itself out, will I regret not having tried to fix it?
 
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The Thomists
Convince people to do good by using reasoned arguments that don’t rely on them sharing our religion.
Objections -
When has this EVER worked?
If people know you’re religious, they’ll ignore what you have to say as coming from a religious point of view even if your argument doesn’t rely on religion.
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When I was young, stupid and naive, i was firmly in the Thomist camp. I really believed that people didn’t do the right thing because they didn’t know any better. And I’d get frustrated that my attempts to educate weren’t working.

Since then I’ve come to realize that: People are illogical, unreasonable, and self-centered. Love them anyway.
 
But I also believe in a type of social cycle theory, that civilizations rise and fall, and that we are firmly in the falling action of Western Civilization.
 
Benedictine option.

Reform and enlarge the Papal States, create a Catholic nation. Simple.

#DeusVult
 
why argue. why not just do good as individuals. and, hope it sets the examples for others to follow.

if it doesn’t, the world is not any worse off, but if enough follow the example, soul by soul, action by action, it will improve.

Pax et Bonum!
 
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