The Council of Trent catechism

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I don’t know which version is
most complete, but I’m curious about your reasons for reading or consulting it. I’m not disagreeing with reading it, I thought about reading some myself, I’m curious about your reasons.

Obviously the current Catechism was very slightly amended by Pope Francis. Was the Catechism of the Council of Trent amended by any subsequent pope?
 
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I’m reading it because I think it’s important As Catholics we know our history more importantly I want to see the difference between a pre-Vatican II and post-Vatican II catechism. I want to know what was passed down to our history. That to me is the best way to make sure that I am practicing the faith properly.I don’t believe that the Council of Trent catechism was changed I’m more interested in the comparisons pre-Vatican II versus post-Vatican II. I would definitely encourage people to read it
 
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Was the Catechism of the Council of Trent amended by any subsequent pope?
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A very interesting question. It apparently was not. However, my Baronius Press edition of the Catechism of Trent says it was based off of the 1858 edition of it. They say it was updated in 1761 to include Clement XIII’s encyclical praising it and there were a few other editions published in the 1500’s.
 
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I’m not sure because I’m not sure what the difference is between the one with black cover and the one that I own I was hoping someone could tell me. Because I know sometimes reprints are not always faithful to the original text or translation. That’s why I was asking hoping someone here would be able to help
 
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I’m reading it because I think it’s important As Catholics we know our history more importantly I want to see the difference between a pre-Vatican II and post-Vatican II catechism. I want to know what was passed down to our history. That to me is the best way to make sure that I am practicing the faith properly.I don’t believe that the Council of Trent catechism was changed I’m more interested in the comparisons pre-Vatican II versus post-Vatican II. I would definitely encourage people to read it
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I just wanted to point out that the purposes of each Catechism is a bit different, and they don’t cover all the same topics (and one may put more emphasis on certain doctrines than the other). The Catechism of Trent was designed for priests to use to aid in their preaching. The Catechism of the Catholic Church was intended to be a more comprehensive text and serve as a model for bishops in different countries to base their own catechisms–but it took off as a popular text in its own right. It has a lot more footnotes and citations, etc. Honestly, I find each–as well as a simply catechism like that of Pius X or the Baltimore Catechism–to be complementary and each useful for different purposes. In short, just wanted to note it’s not totally apples to apples.
 
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Aydan said:
Because I know sometimes reprints are not always faithful to the original text or translation. That’s why I was asking hoping someone here would be able to help
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According to my copy (if I remember it right since I put it away), the original manuscript is not existant.
 
I am aware that it was designed for priests and I do have the more comprehensive published by St. Pope John Paul II along with several others including the Pope Pius X catechism I’m interested in Council of Trent for reference and historical purposes
 
Aydan said:
I am aware that it was designed for priests and I do have the more comprehensive published by St. Pope John Paul II along with several others including the Pope Pius X catechism I’m interested in Council of Trent for reference and historical purposes
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There’s nothing wrong with using older catechisms, since the faith is always the same. You might even feel more comfortable with an older one. For example, when asked if the Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church (a simplified version of the CCC in Q&A format) made the Catechism of St. Pius X obsolete, Cardinal Ratzinger replied:
Q: Speaking of St. Pius X’s catechism, which continues to have sympathizers, will the publication of the compendium mean that it is definitively exceeded?

Cardinal Ratzinger: The faith, as such, is always the same. Therefore, St. Pius X’s catechism always retains its value. However, the way of transmitting the contents of the faith can change.

Consequently, one can ask if St. Pius X’s catechism can in this respect be regarded as still valid today. I think that the compendium we are preparing can respond better to today’s needs. But this does not exclude the fact that there can be persons or groups that feel more comfortable with St. Pius X’s catechism.

It should not be forgotten that that Catechism stemmed from a text that was prepared by the Pope himself [Pius X] when he was bishop of Mantua. The text was the fruit of the personal catechetical experience of Giuseppe Sarto, whose characteristics were simplicity of exposition and depth of content. Also because of this, St. Pius X’s catechism might have friends in the future. But this does not make our work superfluous.
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Cardinal Ratzinger on the Abridged Version of Catechism - ZENIT - English
 
I agree I found the older catechisms are often easier to understand what I just wanted to see how the pre-Vatican II catechism compared with post-Vatican II
 
There’s always updated translations. I’d be curious how soon it was translated into English, for instance, or how recently, if there was a revised English version.

With Trent’s catechism most of the intended readers could read with a little, or lot of fluency, the official (Latin) version. With the current Catechism, very few can read Latin at all.
 
I think I finally may have figured out the difference it looks like the one with the black cover has additional supplemental material like prayers of the one I have is a special online version made for Kindle that doesn’t include the supplemental materials.
 
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want to see the difference between a pre-Vatican II and post-Vatican II catechism
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That’s about a 400 year gap in time…I would anticipate many things could be emphasized differently and not necessarily because of Vatican II.
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That to me is the best way to make sure that I am practicing the faith properly.
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I’ll issue this “challenge” to you and anyone else reading that may be aboard this train of thought:

Orthopraxy (“practicing properly”, as you put it) isn’t found in or learned from a book. It comes via prayer and service to others.
 
Why the suspicions raised because someone wants to read the Catechism of the Council of Trent?

I just recently got the Tan Books copy.
 
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Orthopraxy (“practicing properly”, as you put it) isn’t found in or learned from a book. It comes via prayer and service to others.
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Correct those are important things but in my opinion, in addition to those things education is also just as important.
 
That’s what my original post was about I was wondering if I should pick up the TAN book because my version is different but it turns out mine is a special Kindle edition and from another publisher.
 
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