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JustaServant
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What were the historical, cultural, and theological significance of Christ’s prediction of the destruction of the Jewish Temple in 70AD?
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FightingFat
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What an interesting question! Unfortunately, I cannot offer an answer without considerable research (I’ll have a look through my library tonight) but could it be something to do with the Exile? I mean the Exile happened to teach the Jews to stop putting God “in a box” as it were, and to demonstrate that God was a God of people, not places, a numens personale not a numens locale. Could one say that after Jesus had made the personal nature of God explicit to the Jews and they had rejected it outright, God removed the temple and the sacrificial system?
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LMP
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Simply, so that it could be rebuilt.
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Nickkname
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Historical: It came true. The Temple was destroyed.
Cultural: The Jews can no longer make sacrifices.
Theological: The new Temple is Jesus Christ.
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JayDyer
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I wrote an artilce on this:
nicenetruth.com/home/2008/06/the-destruction.html
The significance was the divorce of Israel and the marriage of the bride, the Church.
Jay
nicenetruth.com/home/2008/06/the-destruction.html
The significance was the divorce of Israel and the marriage of the bride, the Church.
Jay
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ryanoneil
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With the dawning of the New Covenant, God clears away the central symbol of the Old Covenant, the Temple. The Jews described it as a model of the universe (Is 6:1-7; Job 38:4-6; Amos 9:6).
This prefigures the destruction of the universe at the final judgment and God making a new heaven and earth.
This prefigures the destruction of the universe at the final judgment and God making a new heaven and earth.
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ryanoneil
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Another interesting parallel is Is the ten northern tribes (Ephraem)rejecting the reign of King David’s heir Hezekiah (Judah). Jerusalem was being beseiged by the Syrians and the 10 northern tribes, and things looked hopeless. Isaiah prophesied that “the Lord himself will give you this sign: the virgin shall be with child, and bear a son, and shall name him Immanuel” (Isa 7:14) and Judah would be saved.
Sure enough Jerusalem was spared, but the story continues. In fewer than 70 years Ephraem (the ten northern tribes) was utterly conquered and left without a trace. The Israelites who had rejected the Davidic line of kings were destroyed and forgotten.
Fast forward to Christ. Matthew uses this prophecy of Isaiah in (Mat 1:23), but he points to more that just the virgin birth. These events included the savation of the believing remnant and the destruction of the unbelieving majority (the Temple Jews) that occurred much later than the actual birth of the child.
Sure enough Jerusalem was spared, but the story continues. In fewer than 70 years Ephraem (the ten northern tribes) was utterly conquered and left without a trace. The Israelites who had rejected the Davidic line of kings were destroyed and forgotten.
Fast forward to Christ. Matthew uses this prophecy of Isaiah in (Mat 1:23), but he points to more that just the virgin birth. These events included the savation of the believing remnant and the destruction of the unbelieving majority (the Temple Jews) that occurred much later than the actual birth of the child.
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LMP
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Flash forward to now
Official Statement
officialdisclosure.com/dome.htm
September 3, 2008
PA Blindly Bashes Jews’ ‘Imaginary Temple’
September 25, 2008
israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/127772
There is a problem with rebuilding in many Jewish eyes and that is animal sacrifice. The jury is still out for the time being, but tensions are gaining height.
Official Statement
officialdisclosure.com/dome.htm
September 3, 2008
PA Blindly Bashes Jews’ ‘Imaginary Temple’
September 25, 2008
israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/127772
There is a problem with rebuilding in many Jewish eyes and that is animal sacrifice. The jury is still out for the time being, but tensions are gaining height.
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JayDyer
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Exactly.
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Muzhik
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I happened to get that “Temple at the Center of Time” book (by David Flynn) at the recommendation of a friend, and because it got thrown in when I was buying some other books; and I have to say, Wow! I’m still trying to wrap my head around some of the stuff he’s writing about. I’ve never been one much into numerology, but he does make strong cases for his theories.
One thing I couldn’t figure out is why all the measurments Flynn uses were nautical miles. Why not kilometers, since the meter is based on the circumfrence of the earth? Then someone else pointed out two things:
- A nautical mile isn’t a random length like a statue mile. To quote Wikipedia, “A nautical mile or sea mile is a unit of length. It corresponds approximately to one minute of latitude along any meridian.” This means the nautical mile is based on nature, on G_D’s creation.
- The meter was developed during the French Revolution as a way to eliminate all the other measurement systems that were based on human scale.
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tobias
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‘The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone.’
Jerusalem had not always been the place of worship, it was preceded by Shilo and before that the Ark of the covenant was mobile in the tent of testimony.
Ever since Solomon set out to build the first temple, it made Jerusalem the religious and cultural center of Jewish life.
That ‘not a stone shall be left upon another stone’ has very strong implications. It points to an unraveling of Jewish life, another exile, and a change in worship.
Remember that the Isrealites sought an earthly king, though God was their king, He gave them Saul. They sought physical means of worship in the desert (golden calf) though God was with them, He gave them the ark of the covenant. They sought their own temple like the pagans had though God gave them the tent of testimony (God did not initiate the idea of a temple), He had Solomon build the first temple.
God, from the outset, wanted to be all things to His people, but they sought to be like the other nations in a visible way.
Christ is that physical/spiritual unity; God’s people’s king, holy of holies, temple, sacrifice, all things in all. ‘I saw no temple in the city( new Jerusalem), for its temple is the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb.’ There is now no need of an earthly temple when the true sacrifice, of Calvary, may be offered to God anywhere any time by all God’s people dispersed throughout the nations.God is not bound by earthly temples, like He told his people from the begining.
Jerusalem had not always been the place of worship, it was preceded by Shilo and before that the Ark of the covenant was mobile in the tent of testimony.
Ever since Solomon set out to build the first temple, it made Jerusalem the religious and cultural center of Jewish life.
That ‘not a stone shall be left upon another stone’ has very strong implications. It points to an unraveling of Jewish life, another exile, and a change in worship.
Remember that the Isrealites sought an earthly king, though God was their king, He gave them Saul. They sought physical means of worship in the desert (golden calf) though God was with them, He gave them the ark of the covenant. They sought their own temple like the pagans had though God gave them the tent of testimony (God did not initiate the idea of a temple), He had Solomon build the first temple.
God, from the outset, wanted to be all things to His people, but they sought to be like the other nations in a visible way.
Christ is that physical/spiritual unity; God’s people’s king, holy of holies, temple, sacrifice, all things in all. ‘I saw no temple in the city( new Jerusalem), for its temple is the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb.’ There is now no need of an earthly temple when the true sacrifice, of Calvary, may be offered to God anywhere any time by all God’s people dispersed throughout the nations.God is not bound by earthly temples, like He told his people from the begining.
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