The Early Writing of Genesis!

  • Thread starter Thread starter twinc
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
T

twinc

Guest
It is asserted,again and again,that Genesis has borrowed its component parts from the myths of Babylonia.The truth of the matter is radically different.There is in fact an abundance of evidence,internal and external,archaeological and documentary,which testifies to the extreme antiquity of Genesis,an antiquity which long pre-dates the Babylonian and all others who are said to be its source[CSM] - more later - twinc
 
please expound. i was intrigued by the recent discovery of Biblical writings in “proto” Hebrew pre-dating the Babylonian exile.
 
please expound. i was intrigued by the recent discovery of Biblical writings in “proto” Hebrew pre-dating the Babylonian exile.
I assume you mean me, this book among others in the link will give you a world of information. A school teacher in the 70’s saw his film clip Cataclysm from Space
2500 BC then said he would lose his job if he played it to his class,
I no longer have a copy, a friend borrowed it then lost it. 🤷
 
I put together something very related to this topic called Christianity Draws From Other Religions? Here is the link litteralchristianlibrary.wetpaint.com/page/Christianity+Draws+From+Other+Religions%3F

In it I have this quote from John Henry Newman
Now, the phenomenon, admitted on all hands, is this:—that great portion of what is generally received as Christian truth, is in its rudiments or in its separate parts to be found in heathen philosophies and religions. For instance, the doctrine of a Trinity is found both in the East and in the West; so is the ceremony of washing; so is the rite of sacrifice. The doctrine of the Divine Word is Platonic; the doctrine of the Incarnation is Indian; of a divine kingdom is Judaic; of Angels and demons is Magian; the connection of sin with the body is Gnostic; celibacy is known to Bonze and Talapoin; a sacerdotal order is Egyptian; the idea of a new birth is Chinese and Eleusinian; belief in sacramental virtue is Pythagorean; and honours to the dead are a polytheism. Such is the general nature of the fact before us; Mr. Milman argues from it,—“These things are in heathenism, therefore they are not Christian:” we, on the contrary, prefer to say, “these things are in Christianity, therefore they are not heathen.” That is, we prefer to say, and we think that Scripture bears us out in saying, that from the beginning the Moral Governor of the world has scattered the seeds of truth far and wide over its extent; that these have variously taken root, and grown up as in the wilderness, wild plants indeed but living; and hence that, as the inferior animals have {232} tokens of an immaterial principle in them, yet have not souls, so the philosophies and religions of men have their life in certain true ideas, though they are not directly divine. [Milman’s View on Christianity 9]
 
“Genesis does not contain purified myths.” Pontifical Biblical Commission, 1909.

Peace,
Ed
 
It is asserted,again and again,that Genesis has borrowed its component parts from the myths of Babylonia.The truth of the matter is radically different.There is in fact an abundance of evidence,internal and external,archaeological and documentary,which testifies to the extreme antiquity of Genesis,an antiquity which long pre-dates the Babylonian and all others who are said to be its source[CSM] - more later - twinc
It is opemly claimed by many that the first chapter of Genesis owes much of its content to the Babylonian creation epic known as the Enuma Elish.But that is because the Babylonian narrative borrows heavily from the Genesis account and not the other way about.How do we know this ? Here’s how. - more later - twinc
 
Would it really make a difference to the Inspiration of the Holy Spirit, if the Genesis contained material from other neighbouring cultures?

I feel that because most of Genesis was originally orally transmitted, it would have influenced and been influenced by the lore from the neighbouring cultures.

The Books of the Proverbs and the Songs of Solomon are also heavily influenced by other non-Hebrew cultures.

What is important is that the Holy Spirit guided the author/compiler to put it together in a way that would make it Scripture; without moral error.
 
It is opemly claimed by many that the first chapter of Genesis owes much of its content to the Babylonian creation epic known as the Enuma Elish.But that is because the Babylonian narrative borrows heavily from the Genesis account and not the other way about.How do we know this ? Here’s how. - more later - twinc
What does that mean?? This is a discussion forum and not a guessing games forum.
 
It is asserted,again and again,that Genesis has borrowed its component parts from the myths of Babylonia.The truth of the matter is radically different.There is in fact an abundance of evidence,internal and external,archaeological and documentary,which testifies to the extreme antiquity of Genesis,an antiquity which long pre-dates the Babylonian and all others who are said to be its source[CSM] - more later - twinc
When I was in college back in the 70s I studied anthropology and, for one of my classes, I did a paper on the issues of the flood account. While most believe that the Babylonian account came first and the biblical account was a copy, I tried to show that it was actually the other way around. I based this on two main points:
  1. The ark in the Bible was much more technologically primitive than the ship in Enuma Elish. The ark just bobbled around on the water but the Babylonian vessel could be steered. The more advanced technology indicated a later date.
  2. In the Bible the people were living to ripe old ages but nothing compared to the Babylonian version, some of whom lived 36,000 years. This made the Babylonian account appear to be an exageration of the biblical account and, therefore, later.
There was more to the paper than just that but I no longer have it and that’s all I remember.

This was at a secular university and I got an A- on the paper from a professor who was not a believer so there must have been some validity in my reasoning. 🙂
 
I have never accepted the Modernist claim that the author of Genesis
borrowed from Pagan myths.

Nor do I accept the claim, popular in modernist scripture scholar circles,
that the Law of Moses, the Pentateuch, was written during the Babylonian exile,
and therefore not substantially authored by Moses.

Peace,
Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+
 
I have never accepted the Modernist claim that the author of Genesis
borrowed from Pagan myths.

Nor do I accept the claim, popular in modernist scripture scholar circles,
that the Law of Moses, the Pentateuch, was written during the Babylonian exile,
and therefore not substantially authored by Moses.

Peace,
Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+
Amen to that!! I’m with you!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top