The 'enemy' is not Mormonism but...

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The enemy is not Mormonism but the antireligious movies and books, such as Bill Maher’s new movie ‘Religulous’:

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WE know there is no God because Bill Maher is not immediately struck dead when he opines in his atheist documentary “Religulous” that he’d no sooner swear on the King James Bible than the Rick James Bible.

A just God would never let such a tragic joke stand.

Talking to such lotus eaters as North Carolina truckers, an Orthodox Jew demonstrating gadgets built to get around Sabbath restrictions, an actor playing Jesus in a theme park, and Muslims in Amsterdam and Jerusalem, Maher finds them all pretty much the same. They are disciples of “nonsense and fantasy,” a point underlined by “Borat” director Larry Charles with pop songs, funny stock footage, biblical cartoons and a shot of magical Mormon undies.

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No defender of any religion could withstand five minutes of cross-examination from a junior varsity debater, but Maher at least seeks out some worthy targets. Dr. Francis Collins, the Christian who heads the human genome project, claims that the Gospels were written by eyewitnesses. When pressed, he admits they were “within a couple of decades of eyewitnesses.”

In one funny segment, Maher grills Jeremiah Cummings - once a member of Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes, now a guy who preaches a gospel that includes instructions to buy his DVDs. Which he sells wearing lizard-skin boots and golden bling. “Just call me Doctor,” says Cummings. A title informs us that he has no degree of any kind. Defending his wardrobe, Cummings says, “Jesus dressed very well!” Maher is skeptical that the Savior’s garments were as fashionable as the fall line of Imitation of Christ, but Cummings replies, “It was linen! It was fine linen!”

A formerly gay guy who says he got straight when he got straight with the Lord, claims “Nobody is born gay.” “Really?” says Maher. “Have you ever met Little Richard?” The ex-gay thinks all gays are unhappy. Maher corrects him (cue footage of Gay Pride saturnalia): “Some of them seem absolutely thrilled.”

When religion is the subject, everything seems extra weird: Maher is interviewing a Muslim leader when the guy’s cellphone rings. The ringtone is the guitar riff from Led Zeppelin’s “Kashmir.”

Though Maher takes a few pokes at President Bush and John McCain, he doesn’t miss an opportunity to take apart a Jesus-loving Democrat, Sen. Mark Pryor of Arkansas, who says that on evolution, “the scientific community is a little divided,” and later adds - not irrelevantly - “You don’t have to pass an IQ test to be in the Senate.”

Maher isn’t unfair. Simply restating religious tenets to believers amounts to ridiculing them, but so be it. Often his subjects can’t or won’t answer a reasonable question. Charged with stupidity in the court of intellectual inquiry, they plead the Fifth.

The average believer may stiffen and think: I’m not one of these Armageddon nuts, these turbaned freaks who kill cartoonists. But that’s only because most sophisticated people help themselves to the moral teachings of religion while discarding the blather about Adam’s rib or the Earth being only 5,000 years old. And if you think Scientology and Mormonism are crazy, you shouldn’t suspend your disbelief when a priest tells you you’re drinking the blood of a guy who’s been dead for 2,000 years.

Maher’s sense of humor deserts him in the end, though, when in an apocalyptic montage of fire and hate (bin Laden, Pat Robertson), he suggests all religions are equally bent on destruction of the Earth. It’s fatuous to suggest that the Iraq war was launched because of religion or that belief in the Book of Revelation is the same as organizing terrorist attacks. There is an urgent plea here, also: That those of us who know better but go along with religion anyway are enablers. “Why,” Maher wants to know, “is believing things without evidence good?”

RELIGULOUS

Hell’s angel.

It is such movies that show no respect for others and their beliefs.
 
It looks like a silly movie. I saw Maher’s interview on the Daily Show the other day, and he seems like a very petty little man. He claims that his movie has done very well with religious people in its pre-release screenings because he’s just “asking them questions that they don’t ever get confronted with” or something to that effect. Where he gets the idea that Christians are never confronted about their beliefs, I don’t know. Of course, he’s just “asking questions”, and “doesn’t see himself as an atheist” (ooo, heaven’s no!). Maybe he thinks that if he tows a fine line between mockery and satire he’ll bring down a few people with too weak faith and too many Richard Dawkins books at their local library. Sad thing is, he’s probably right.

I would have no problem with movies like this that basically point out that many religious people don’t really know their faith very well (I was never told, even as a Protestant, that the gospels were written by eyewitnesses, so I don’t know where the doctor gets his religious education from) if it weren’t for the fact that (a) It puts people on the defensive because they just see that their religion is being attacked, not that there is a real lack of knowledge about Christianity among western Christians that needs to be remedied yesterday, and (b) there are plenty of knowledgable, charitable Christians whom Maher would not have shaken or made to look foolish (and hence were probably not interviewed nor even searched in the process of making the film), and seeing such people in one of these types of films might actually help people from situation (a) and non-Christians really understand what the faith is all about.

And, yes, Mormonism is still a false religion. Nice try forcing into discussion here once again, though. 😉
 
I’ve noticed that most films attacking Christianity tend to fail at the box office.
 
And, yes, Mormonism is still a false religion. Nice try forcing into discussion here once again, though. 😉
And for Bill, all religions are false, which of course you would agree with up to a point…only the catholic faith is not false. 🙂
 
That is fallacious reasoning. Anyone who truly believes in their (Abrahamic) religion must by virtue of their belief in their own religion reject other religions. This does not mean that I share anything in common with the viewpoint of Bill Maher. I don’t buy into the atheist “I just believe in one less God than you do”, or now the Mormon variant that you are presenting me with. Maher’s movie is about disbelieving in religion, period. You and I both believe in religion (well, you claim to believe in two…), so our disagreement cannot be meaningfully compared to Maher’s disagreement with both us. To him, we’re both wrong for the same reason. To me, both you and he are wrong, but for different reasons.
 
It takes a lot of self-hatred to become as contemptuous as Bill Maher is, no matter what his target is at any given moment.
 
And Mormonism has just a tad of the demonic in it. 🤷
Really? I don’t think so. Most mormons live good christian lives and are an asset to the community. Give me a good mormon family any day for a neighbor. 🙂
 
It takes a lot of self-hatred to become as contemptuous as Bill Maher is, no matter what his target is at any given moment.
True, but he is also making money from it. And that makes all the difference. At least for him.
 
Unfortunately irony and contempt seem to be the name of the game today. People like that tend to self-destruct eventually. Long before he’s ready for it, he’ll be a forgotten nobody again.
 
Well, you have to admit, there are ridiculous ways of practicing religion. Maher, for all his huff and puff and blow your house down, makes good points now and then. If he could only turn that wit and skepticism to his own atheism, as there are ridiculous ways of being non-religious. Sometimes, he portrays them quite well.

I plan on seeing this film. Though, I’m not going to add to it’s box office tally. I’ll wait for it to show up on satellite and dvr it.
 
From the arch-devil Screwtape, regarding “humor” of Mahar’s usage:
*"…flippancy is the best of all. In the first place it is very economical. Only a clever human can make a real Joke about virtue, or indeed about anything else; any of them can be trained to talk as if virtue were funny. Among flippant people the Joke is always assumed to have been made. No one actually makes it; but every serious subject is discussed in a manner which implies that they have already found a ridiculous side to it. If prolonged, the habit of Flippancy builds up around a man the finest armour-plating against the Enemy *(God in Screwtape-speak) that I know, and it is quite free from the dangers inherent in the other sources of laughter. It is a thousand miles away from joy it deadens, instead of sharpening, the intellect; and it excites no affection between those who practice it…"
from The Screwtape Letters: XI by CS Lewis
 
Irreverance and secular humanism are the biggest threats, no doubt.

Why me, do you see anyone attacking the Mormon faith as attacking Mormon people?
 
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