The Eucharist at the last supper vs now

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I had a conversation a while back with a family member who was raised Catholic but left the Church in her 20’s about the Eucharist. She told me that when Jesus consecrated the bread and wine into His Body and Blood that that is exactly what He did but, said she, that miracle was not handed on. Has anyone ever come across this particular mental gymnastics? If so how did you reply? Or if you haven’t, how should I reply if it ever comes up again?

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I had a conversation a while back with a family member who was raised Catholic but left the Church in her 20’s about the Eucharist. She told me that when Jesus consecrated the bread and wine into His Body and Blood that that is exactly what He did but, said she, that miracle was not handed on. Has anyone ever come across this particular mental gymnastics? If so how did you reply? Or if you haven’t, how should I reply if it ever comes up again?

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Ask her where she gets that.

Then ask why the apostles talked about receiving the body and blood unworthily, and why the early Church continued the practice of the Eucharist as the real Body and Blood of Jesus?
 
Strange. Our Lord said, “Do *this *in memory of Me.” What else could He mean, except what He Himself did?
 
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I had a conversation a while back with a family member who was raised Catholic but left the Church in her 20’s about the Eucharist. She told me that when Jesus consecrated the bread and wine into His Body and Blood that that is exactly what He did but, said she, that miracle was not handed on. Has anyone ever come across this particular mental gymnastics?
Sure. Church Father Ignatius of Antioch did :o
Take note of those who hold heterodox opinions on the grace of Jesus Christ which has come to us, and see how contrary their opinions are to the mind of God. . . . They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which that Father, in his goodness, raised up again.
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I had a conversation a while back with a family member who was raised Catholic but left the Church in her 20’s about the Eucharist. She told me that when Jesus consecrated the bread and wine into His Body and Blood that that is exactly what He did but, said she, that miracle was not handed on. Has anyone ever come across this particular mental gymnastics? If so how did you reply? Or if you haven’t, how should I reply if it ever comes up again?

Annie
I have heard of the argument that the early church needed this in order to help it grow in the beginning. But that it wasn’t needed as it developed into maturity, so it wasn’t continued.

The argument against such is to show them that the early church and later church continued this practise and that it was handed down.

from Ignatius of Antioch,Apostolic Father,(c. 107 A.D.)

“Now note well those who hold heretical opinions about the grace of Jesus Christ which came to us; note how contrary they are to the mind of God…. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they refuse to acknowledge that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins and which the Father by his goodness raised up.”

Justin Martyr

“On the day called the Feast of the Sun, all who live in towns or in the country assemble in one place, and the memoirs of the Apostles or the writings of the Prophets are read as time permits. Then, when the reader has ended, the President instructs and encourages the people to practice the truths contained in the Scripture lections. Thereafter, we all stand up and offer prayers together … Our prayers being ended, we salute one another with a kiss. Then bread, and a cup of wine mixed with water, are brought to him who presides over the brethren. He, taking them, offers praise and glory to the Father of all through the Name of the Son and the Holy Spirit, and giving thanks at great length for that we have been counted worthy to receive these gifts from God; and when he finishes the prayers and thanksgivings all the people present cry aloud, Amen … After the President [the presiding priest] has given thanks and all the people have said Amen, those among us who are called deacons give to all present … the bread and wine mixed with water over which thanks has been given, and carry it also to those who are absent. And this food is called Eucharist by us, of which it is not right for any one to partake save only he who believes that the things taught by us are true, and is washed with the washing that is for the forgiveness of sins and regeneration, and so lives as Christ commanded us.” (A.D. 130, Martyred in A.D. 165)

Ref. in O.T, N.T., Fathers
scripturecatholic.com/the_eucharist.html

Church fathers
catholic.com/tracts/the-real-presence

The real presence taught by the fathers
therealpresence.org/eucharst/father/a5.html
 
The section below is from the Gospel According to Luke. Notice that Jesus speaks the word to his followers but they still do not understand. It is not until he breaks the bread that he is revealed to them. Scripture gives us the burning desire to follow the Lord, but you cannot fully know the Lord by simply reading the Bible. You must receive the Lord in the form of the Blessed Sacrament. If it was not intended to be handed on I do not see why he would repeat the process, especially without the attendance of the eleven apostles.

Luke 24:13-35

13 Now on that same day two of them were going to a village called Emmaus, about seven miles from Jerusalem, 14 and talking with each other about all these things that had happened. 15 While they were talking and discussing, Jesus himself came near and went with them, 16 but their eyes were kept from recognizing him. 17 And he said to them, “What are you discussing with each other while you walk along?” They stood still, looking sad.g 18 Then one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answered him, “Are you the only stranger in Jerusalem who does not know the things that have taken place there in these days?” 19 He asked them, “What things?” They replied, “The things about Jesus of Nazareth,h who was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people, 20 and how our chief priests and leaders handed him over to be condemned to death and crucified him. 21 But we had hoped that he was the one to redeem Israel.i Yes, and besides all this, it is now the third day since these things took place. 22 Moreover, some women of our group astounded us. They were at the tomb early this morning, 23 and when they did not find his body there, they came back and told us that they had indeed seen a vision of angels who said that he was alive. 24 Some of those who were with us went to the tomb and found it just as the women had said; but they did not see him.” 25 Then he said to them, “Oh, how foolish you are, and how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have declared! 26 Was it not necessary that the Messiah should suffer these things and then enter into his glory?” 27 Then beginning with Moses and all the prophets, he interpreted to them the things about himself in all the scriptures.

28 As they came near the village to which they were going, he walked ahead as if he were going on. 29 But they urged him strongly, saying, “Stay with us, because it is almost evening and the day is now nearly over.” So he went in to stay with them. 30 When he was at the table with them, he took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to them. 31 Then their eyes were opened, and they recognized him; and he vanished from their sight. 32 They said to each other, “Were not our hearts burning within us while he was talking to us on the road, while he was opening the scriptures to us?” 33 That same hour they got up and returned to Jerusalem; and they found the eleven and their companions gathered together. 34 They were saying, “The Lord has risen indeed, and he has appeared to Simon!” 35 Then they told what had happened on the road, and how he had been made known to them in the breaking of the bread.
 
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