The First Church Was Catholic

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Abiding_in_Love said:
My first Blogspot post:

catholicvaliance.blogspot.ca/2016/08/the-first-church-was-catholic.html
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In the first Church, the east and west were united, The Eastern Orthodox say that the Roman Catholic Church split apart from the true Church in 1054, when the Roman Catholics excommunicated the Orthodox because their priests were married, because they did not add the filioque to the creed and other reasons were listed as well. The first Nicene Creed of the united Catholic Church did not contain the filioque.
 
Tomdstone said:
In the first Church, the east and west were united, The Eastern Orthodox say that the Roman Catholic Church split apart from the true Church in 1054, when the Roman Catholics excommunicated the Orthodox because their priests were married, because they did not add the filioque to the creed and other reasons were listed as well. The first Nicene Creed of the united Catholic Church did not contain the filioque.
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East and west were united, you’re right. The Pope has primacy, though, so the Orthodox split because they couldn’t accept that, among other things.
 
Abiding_in_Love said:
East and west were united, you’re right. The Pope has primacy, though, so the Orthodox split because they couldn’t accept that, among other things.
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The East didn’t have a problem with primacy, it had a problem with supremacy.
 
you obviously do not know the history of the Church, it is all explained in the book of acts, but then Catholics don’t really read the Bible, and if they did they would know the first Church was established in Jerusalem, headed by the half-brother of Jesus, James. read for yourselves if you doubt.
 
Leo_Mouchet said:
you obviously do not know the history of the Church, it is all explained in the book of acts, but then Catholics don’t really read the Bible, and if they did they would know the first Church was established in Jerusalem, headed by the half-brother of Jesus, James. read for yourselves if you doubt.
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Catholics hear the Bible read every time they go to Mass, several times. Please read the Early Church Fathers, what they said about the Eucharist (they believed it was the flesh and blood of Jesus), Baptism (they believed it was necessary for salvation and baptized infants), Mary (they paid her a great deal of veneration), etc.

Here are some resources to get you started:

therealpresence.org/eucharst/father/a5.html

staycatholic.com/early_church_fathers.htm

God bless you.
 
I am Fully aware of what transpires in the Catholic mass and that the gospels and the epistles are read during it but it is all selective what I am saying is that catholics do not read or understand the Bible at all. since 1229, the Bible was banned reading for the laity, so people got into the habit of not reading and allowing tha priest to tell them about the scriptures and how to understand them. it wasn’t until 1968 that the bible was taken off of the banned list and people, the laity still do not read except by the tutorship of the clergy who do not have an understanding of the scriptures either, and this is from personal experience,
Baptism I’m afraid will not get you into heaven. Read Romans 19:9-13 and tell me where it even mentions baptism, and the pouring of water over a baby’s head is not baptism! the word baptize is Greek for the word immerse, and Catholics do not immerse people in water, so you don’t even have that right. It really does pain me in my heart to see and hear the falsities in the Roman church because in spite of my efforts my siblings are caught up in this
heresy called Catholicism! take it from one who is born again and knows that Jesus is a Jew and an Israelite. I’m sure you will disagree, and say that the Lord is a Christian.
 
Leo_Mouchet said:
I am Fully aware of what transpires in the Catholic mass and that the gospels and the epistles are read during it but it is all selective what I am saying is that catholics do not read or understand the Bible at all. since 1229, the Bible was banned reading for the laity, so people got into the habit of not reading and allowing tha priest to tell them about the scriptures and how to understand them. it wasn’t until 1968 that the bible was taken off of the banned list and people, the laity still do not read except by the tutorship of the clergy who do not have an understanding of the scriptures either, and this is from personal experience,
Baptism I’m afraid will not get you into heaven. Read Romans 19:9-13 and tell me where it even mentions baptism, and the pouring of water over a baby’s head is not baptism! the word baptize is Greek for the word immerse, and Catholics do not immerse people in water, so you don’t even have that right. It really does pain me in my heart to see and hear the falsities in the Roman church because in spite of my efforts my siblings are caught up in this
heresy called Catholicism! take it from one who is born again and knows that Jesus is a Jew and an Israelite. I’m sure you will disagree, and say that the Lord is a Christian.
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Catholicism is not a heresy. Protestantism is a heresy condemned by the Council of Trent.

Please read and pray about the resources I showed you. The Early Church Fathers are clear: they believed the Catholic way. Protestantism (which includes your evangelical offshoot) is a distortion of that Catholic truth.

As for Baptism: staycatholic.com/ecf_baptism.htm

The Didache: “After the foregoing instructions, baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living [running] water. If you have no living water, then baptize in other water, and if you are not able in cold, then in warm. If you have neither, pour water three times on the head, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Before baptism, let the one baptizing and the one to be baptized fast, as also any others who are able. Command the one who is to be baptized to fast beforehand for one or two days (Didache 7:1 [ca. A.D. 70]).”

Saint Irenaeus: "He [Jesus] came to save all through himself – all, I say, who through him are reborn in God; infants, and children, and youths, and old men. Therefore he passed through every age, becoming an infant for infants, sanctifying infants; a child for children, sanctifying those who are of that age . . . [so that] he might be the perfect teacher in all things, perfect not only in respect to the setting forth of truth, perfect also in respect to relative age (Against Heresies 2:22:4 [A.D. 189]).

Saint Ambrose: "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God. No one is excepted, not [even] the infant.” (“Concerning Repentance,” c. 387 A.D.)

stpeterslist.com/1642/the-early-church-baptized-infants-11-quotes/
 
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