The Fisherman's Tomb

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I am listening to the video “The World Over” on YouTube. John O’Neille said the stone they found near St. Peter’s grave had V for Victory and R for Redemption but they didn’t speak English in the time of St. Peter. Should we believe him? I am hoping it is true but that bit of information seems not to be valid.
 
They spoke Latin in the time of St. Peter, since he was living in the Roman Empire.
The Latin word for “victory” is “victoria” and the Latin word for “redemption” is “redemptio”.
In case you didn’t guess, the English words we use today came from these Latin words.
 
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We aren’t 100% certain of his gravesite.

However, when excavations were done under St. Peters (in the 70s?), a graveyard was found with most graves pointing radially to a center grave. The stone at the center was broken, but the surviving text was consistent with “Petros”.

This is also consistent with early Church practice of building graves on the sites of martyr’s death and burials.

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Actually, we are 100% sure that it is the grave site (or at least as close to 100% as you can be 2000 years later). The skepticism is instead placed upon the remains found there. Tradition states that the tomb has always been there. When they did the excavations, they found a tomb inset into a small shrine which exactly matches contemporary descriptions of Peter’s tomb. The center stone was broken and the full inscription was lost, but this too aligns with history. In the early 3rd century, a decree was made by the Emperor for the purpose of discouraging Christian veneration of the Saints. It stated that it was illegal for non-cremated remains to be kept within the boundaries of the city. The Pope ordered the tombs of Sts. Peter and Paul to be opened and their remains removed for fear that the Romans would destroy them. If you look closely, the stone which covered the tomb of St. Paul was also broken at this time. The remains were taken to the Catacomb of St. Sebastian and remained there until a small shrine (which was found in the excavations around the Catacomb) was built among the pagan tombs along the Via Ostiensis to camouflage it from Romans who wished to destroy it. It wasn’t until Constantine commissioned the Lateran, St. Peter’s and St. Paul’s Basilicas that they were moved back. Because the remains of Peter and Paul had been together for a period of time and local tradition united their devotion, the heads of Peter and Paul were kept together and brought to San Giovanni in Laterno (Lateran Basilica) where they still reside in reliquaries above the altar. St. Paul’s body was replaced in his tomb and it was bricked over. St. Peter’s remains were not replaced, however, as the tomb itself was too damaged, so they were placed in a niche above the tomb and it was enclosed to make the altar for the new Basilica. The skepticism about the remains comes from whether or not we found the right box of bones and if it wasn’t lost when they rebuilt St. Peter’s starting in the 1400’s as Bramante, the original architect of the new St. Perers, was of the mindset of “Tear everything down, throw it away, and start from scratch.”
 
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i don’t wish to be disrespectful;

but some of us here have eye troubles

long-winded single spaced essays don’t serve some of the community all that well

i know you put your heart & mind into that post

maybe you could post your essay and then summarize with bullet points

this is a “message” board, not an essay posting place…
 
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i saw the promotion for the book on the “ray arroyo” show on ewtn

the subject is fascinating

i can’ t read that well anymore

hopefully an audiobook edition will come out soon…
 
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I went on a pilgrimage last September and took the Scavi tour. Very

fascinating. At one point the priest told us to look into an opening and we

would see Peter’s bones in a box there. The place is kept hot and humid so

the stones, etc. won’t deteriorate more than it has. The path is

narrow so it’s not an easy tour to take but worth it.
 
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