The Gender Identity Mandate

[JimG]

The Gender Identity Mandate: The latest threat to health care rights of conscience.

“Physician infractions against the GIM carry substantial liability: the federal government could withdraw the physician’s federal funding, the Department of Justice could bring enforcement proceedings against offending physicians, and transgender patients could sue the physician for damages and attorneys’ fees. To avoid dealing with the GIM’s threats to conscience and their practice of medicine, some physicians receiving federal reimbursement have simply cancelled their Medicaid, Medicare, CHIP, IHS, or Tricare patients.”

 

[edwest2]

The Gender Identity Mandate: The latest threat to health care rights of conscience.

“Physician infractions against the GIM carry substantial liability: the federal government could withdraw the physician’s federal funding, the Department of Justice could bring enforcement proceedings against offending physicians, and transgender patients could sue the physician for damages and attorneys’ fees. To avoid dealing with the GIM’s threats to conscience and their practice of medicine, some physicians receiving federal reimbursement have simply cancelled their Medicaid, Medicare, CHIP, IHS, or Tricare patients.”

It’s their right.

Ed

 

[Hatikvah]

The Gender Identity Mandate: The latest threat to health care rights of conscience.

“Physician infractions against the GIM carry substantial liability: the federal government could withdraw the physician’s federal funding, the Department of Justice could bring enforcement proceedings against offending physicians, and transgender patients could sue the physician for damages and attorneys’ fees. To avoid dealing with the GIM’s threats to conscience and their practice of medicine, some physicians receiving federal reimbursement have simply cancelled their Medicaid, Medicare, CHIP, IHS, or Tricare patients.”

I feel sorry for the doctors. They literally go into a job which is intended to help people and even to save lives, but, of course, the social liberals try to make sure no one gets “offended” in the process.

 

[JonNC]

The Gender Identity Mandate: The latest threat to health care rights of conscience.

“Physician infractions against the GIM carry substantial liability: the federal government could withdraw the physician’s federal funding, the Department of Justice could bring enforcement proceedings against offending physicians, and transgender patients could sue the physician for damages and attorneys’ fees. To avoid dealing with the GIM’s threats to conscience and their practice of medicine, some physicians receiving federal reimbursement have simply cancelled their Medicaid, Medicare, CHIP, IHS, or Tricare patients.”

Cancelling their Medicare, etc.patients will not solve the problem. If we have learned anything, progressives do not believe in tolerance. They do not believe in religious free exercise. They do not believe in freedom of association.
They do not believe that a doctor has the right to choose not to serve someone, based on their religious beliefs. We will see this come to the fore as Catholic and other hospitals of conscience who do not perform abortions will be attacked in the same way. It will no longer be a doctor - patient decision, but a patient - government decision, forcing doctors to act in opposition to their deeply held beliefs.

Jon

 

[edwest2]

The word Progressive is an oxymoron. A fake word. Real progress means everyone is respected.

William F. Buckley — ‘Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.’

This is hypocritical but does fit well into the ongoing, growing dictatorship.

Ed

 

[JonNC]

The word Progressive is an oxymoron. A fake word. Real progress means everyone is respected.

William F. Buckley — ‘Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.’

This is hypocritical but does fit well into the ongoing, growing dictatorship.

Ed

The truth about progressives and other views can be found in the words of their gurus. Take, for example, progressive champion Herbert Marcuse, and his “repressive tolerance” theory of modern progressives.

"Liberating tolerance would mean intolerance against movements from the right and toleration of movements from the left. Certain things cannot be said, certain ideas cannot be expressed, certain policies cannot be proposed.”

 

[edwest2]

The truth about progressives and other views can be found in the words of their gurus. Take, for example, progressive champion Herbert Marcuse, and his “repressive tolerance” theory of modern progressives.

Dictatorship = repressive tolerance.

Ed

 

[Peter_Plato]

The word Progressive is an oxymoron. A fake word. Real progress means everyone is respected.

Ed

Well, Ed, if you drop the first r and change the g in progressive to a p and then reverse the order of the remaining two initial letters, you end up with the real word and the indisputable meaning of progressive: oppressive.

The progression of oppression. :hey_bud:

 

[1990Domer]

Every time I read an article like this, I feel another pair of handcuffs are being thrown on Christians, especially Catholics. This does not bode well for the future of our society.

 

[jeannetherese]

The Gender Identity Mandate: The latest threat to health care rights of conscience.

“Physician infractions against the GIM carry substantial liability: the federal government could withdraw the physician’s federal funding, the Department of Justice could bring enforcement proceedings against offending physicians, and transgender patients could sue the physician for damages and attorneys’ fees. To avoid dealing with the GIM’s threats to conscience and their practice of medicine, some physicians receiving federal reimbursement have simply cancelled their Medicaid, Medicare, CHIP, IHS, or Tricare patients.”

From the link:
" An example of elective gender-transition therapy: a transgender male patient (a biological female) requests a hysterectomy as part of gender transition therapy. The attending physician declines to perform the hysterectomy based on her philosophical, medical, or moral convictions. Provision of the requested surgery contradicts the objective nature of sexuality, constitutes an inappropriate treatment for gender dysphoria—treating gender confusion, in the words of Dr. Paul McHugh, “as a right in need of defending rather than as a mental disorder that deserves understanding, treatment and prevention”—and fails to serve the patient’s best interests.

As already noted, the GIM requires physicians prescribing hormone therapy, or performing hysterectomies, mastectomies, plastic surgery, or genital reconstruction surgery for non-transgender patients to provide the same services to transgender patients."

I wonder how this will affect Johns Hopkins:
cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgendered-men-dont-become-women-they-become

"In fact, at Johns Hopkins, where they pioneered sex-change-surgery, “we demonstrated that the practice brought no important benefits,” said Dr. McHugh. “As a result, we stopped offering that form of treatment in the 1970s.”

Will Universities and Medical Centers be forced to turn away from their research based best practices?

 

[rae317]

I feel sorry for the doctors. They literally go into a job which is intended to help people and even to save lives, but, of course, the social liberals try to make sure no one gets “offended” in the process.

Having experienced being denied health care and unable to get health insurance because I was transgender I’d say there is a little more to it then just being offended.

 

[JimG]

From the link:
" An example of elective gender-transition therapy: a transgender male patient (a biological female) requests a hysterectomy as part of gender transition therapy. The attending physician declines to perform the hysterectomy based on her philosophical, medical, or moral convictions. Provision of the requested surgery contradicts the objective nature of sexuality, constitutes an inappropriate treatment for gender dysphoria—treating gender confusion, in the words of Dr. Paul McHugh, “as a right in need of defending rather than as a mental disorder that deserves understanding, treatment and prevention”—and fails to serve the patient’s best interests.

As already noted, the GIM requires physicians prescribing hormone therapy, or performing hysterectomies, mastectomies, plastic surgery, or genital reconstruction surgery for non-transgender patients to provide the same services to transgender patients."

I wonder how this will affect Johns Hopkins:
cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgendered-men-dont-become-women-they-become

"In fact, at Johns Hopkins, where they pioneered sex-change-surgery,** “we demonstrated that the practice brought no important benefits,” said Dr. McHugh. “As a result, we stopped offering that form of treatment in the 1970s.”**

Will Universities and Medical Centers be forced to turn away from their research based best practices?

A good point. They have already determined that the sex change surgery brought no benefits, so stopped offering it. I’m sure that under this final HHS rule, they could be sanctioned for refusing the surgery.

Yet I’m a little puzzled. The patient requesting the surgery is a woman who claims to be a man. Might they accept the patient’s gender identity at face value and simply say that they do not perform hysterectomies on men?

 

[Bruised_Reed]

A good point. They have already determined that the sex change surgery brought no benefits, so stopped offering it. I’m sure that under this final HHS rule, they could be sanctioned for refusing the surgery.

Yet I’m a little puzzled. The patient requesting the surgery is a woman who claims to be a man. Might they accept the patient’s gender identity at face value and simply say that they do not perform hysterectomies on men?

No one has determined that SRS has no benefits. There is an outdated study that did not factor in lack of support or continued threats and obstacles. One of those obstacles is getting health care. There are many statistics that show the people who identify as LGBTQ have many health issues and that is often attributed to the person being LGBTQ, as if they changed their “gay lifestyle” they would be healthier. However, the reason they have more health problems is that they do not seek health care because of the way they are treated when they do seek it. I’m tired of explaining each and every time I do to the doctor why I don’t want a medically unnecessary surgery. I feel harrassed and disrespected. I fired one doctor when she rolled her eyes when I explained, yet again, my reasons. So I’ve occasionally put off seeking medical attention even though the reason is unrelated to the proposed surgery. My experience is mild. I can’t imagine what a person who is transgender might go through.

Also, it would be cruel to deny hysterectomies to a person who might appear as a man or boy. Congenital adrenal hyperpalsia is one condition where a hysterectomy is also therapeutic.

 

[JimG]

Another consideration occurs to me. In a case like this, where a woman who identifies as a man wants to have a hysterectomy, there is always the possibility that she might later have a change of heart, and sue the hospital for forever destroying her ability to bear a child.

I thought of this because of a segment I saw on “60 Minutes” a few weeks ago, about a female swimmer who identified as a man. After swimming on a women’s team and being the top swimmer, she joined the men’s team, but was no longer in the upper ranks of the team. She had “top surgery”—a double mastectomy–but not “bottom surgery.” The interviewer asked if s/he planed a hysterectomy. The answer was no—because “I might want to bear a child someday. I haven’t decided yet.”

I was astonished. Here was a person who is a biological and genetic woman, but who firmly identifies as a man, yet might want to bear a child!

So any hospital had better cover its legal bases well.

 

[Rosebud77]

The word Progressive is an oxymoron. A fake word. Real progress means everyone is respected.

William F. Buckley — ‘Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.’

This is hypocritical but does fit well into the ongoing, growing dictatorship.

Ed

Define “respected” please. A far more “fake” word than “progressive.”

 

[RCinMT]

Having experienced being denied health care and unable to get health insurance because I was transgender I’d say there is a little more to it then just being offended.

Rae: At this point there are several health care providers who may be willing to offer gender mutilation surgery. Does forcing a doctor who will not perform the procedure really need to be met with punishment? There is no science–see the recently published study by McHugh & c. behind transgender being a physical medical condition.

And what we see here is a case in point of the problem with the old Catholic method of “go along to get along” coming home to roost. All we heard from radical adherents to the sexual revolution was “don’t force your morals on us”…which is now exactly what they are doing to everybody else. And the silent majority, who might even agree with somethings like same sex marriage, just go along with other things to which they must certainly object like forcing health care providers to provide transition services, abortions, etc.

Heck, the Washington Post reports today that some entity is trying to promulgate rules that would disbar attorneys who take on cases defending traditional marriage.

 

[RCinMT]

No one has determined that SRS has no benefits. There is an outdated study that did not factor in lack of support or continued threats and obstacles. One of those obstacles is getting health care. There are many statistics that show the people who identify as LGBTQ have many health issues and that is often attributed to the person being LGBTQ, as if they changed their “gay lifestyle” they would be healthier. However, the reason they have more health problems is that they do not seek health care because of the way they are treated when they do seek it. I’m tired of explaining each and every time I do to the doctor why I don’t want a medically unnecessary surgery. I feel harrassed and disrespected. I fired one doctor when she rolled her eyes when I explained, yet again, my reasons. So I’ve occasionally put off seeking medical attention even though the reason is unrelated to the proposed surgery. My experience is mild. I can’t imagine what a person who is transgender might go through.

Also, it would be cruel to deny hysterectomies to a person who might appear as a man or boy. Congenital adrenal hyperpalsia is one condition where a hysterectomy is also therapeutic.

Nobody supports denying necessary medical care to people based on actual physical conditions. As only a woman would ever have an underlying condition that would necessitate a hysterectomy it wouldn’t matter if a woman looked, dressed or presented herself as a man…no man can have female reproductive organs. Doctors, however, are not in the habit of performing medically unnecessary surgeries that involve organ removal. To wit, I almost died two years ago at age 34 because a doctor wanted to avoid removing my gall bladder at all costs because it’s “unethical and bad practice to remove organs needlessly”.

But hysterectomy as an elective surgery for transitioning is immoral and unethical. It’s even more immoral and unethical to force a doctor to perform unnecessary procedures against his/her will.